If it's a DP there will be a black box at the top where the copper drop wires connect to each property. The pole may have a label that shows the number , e.g. DP21. If it's just a carrier pole there will be no termination box and there maybe a label that shows the carrier pole number e.g. CP1 , CP2 etc

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The latest update is that there is a problem with a tree which needs to be dug up and it has very deep roots! After the assurance I had from them that the work would be done by today enough was enough and I've cancelled with Vodafone.

When I was in this game I visited tens of thousands of punters and I never once saw anyone digging up a tree to provide service. This is nonsense.

Same as that.

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It’s actually Distribution Point...

The OR doc I quoted calls it a pole. At least twice. Is there an alternative source for point, so that DP might mean either?

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In reply to a post by Iniltous:

It’s actually Distribution Point...

The OR doc I quoted calls it a pole. At least twice. Is there an alternative source for point, so that DP might mean either?

DP stands for 'Distribution Point' all day long, can be up a pole or down a hole or even in the basement of a building.

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In reply to a post by Iniltous:

It’s actually Distribution Point...

The OR doc I quoted calls it a pole. At least twice. Is there an alternative source for point, so that DP might mean either?

DP stands for 'Distribution Point' all day long, can be up a pole or down a hole or even in the basement of a building.

Agreed, DP in Openreach parlance, means distribution point.
Each will have a unique to its owning exchange identifying number.
They can be overhead, underground radial, underground, running , internal, external …
This is for copper.
For FTTP, it has different names. CBT, track node, manifold, agg node, etc, etc.

I doubt the subby got paid for an incomplete job.

They do. Can’t recall the exact figure, but the installers get a small fee for an incomplete.

Is anybody listening? I provided an Openreach document as a reference that DP can mean Distribution Pole. I'm shouted down by multiple people who assert, without giving any references of their own, and making no mention of the reference that I quoted, that it stands for Distribution Point.

This is a trivial issue and I don't want to labour it. I can accept that it could mean either according to context. However it would be better if folks could justify their assertions when requested, which they have not done. Otherwise we end up in a situation where those who shout loudest prevail, irrespective of the facts. That's more like Trump's America than a basis for rational discussion and debate.

I don’t think the intention was to ‘shout you down’ , it’s not easy to provide references to something not particularly intended for public consumption, but the term DP is used in relation to underground distribution, overhead distribution, internal and external distribution, these other methods obviously don’t include a pole , it is true that you provide a link to a document intended to help interested parties identify Openreach plant , and does indeed state distribution pole , but that immediately fails if looking at a DP within an office block situation mounted on a wall , it rather obviously isn’t a distribution pole .

I dare say whoever produced the guide was either ignorant of the actual abbreviation or decided that a minor error would be helpful to the casual observer, the guide even includes a disclaimer about its contents, at least one of the contributors stating its Distribution Point is an Openreach employee

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Is anybody listening?

Sorry if you thought you was being shouted down that was never mine or anyone else's intentions. I have seen many official Openreach documents with errors in them done by Marketing teams who haven't reached out to get the facts. The only evidence I can give you is from the knowledge of people here who have worked for GPO/BT/Openreach which probably adds up to over 100 years of employment.

Edited by PCJM40 (Sun 21-Jul-24 12:37:32)

It actually means both Distribution Point and Distribution Pole. If you see a pole with 'DP' on it, it means its a Distribution Pole. CP means Carrier Pole. Distribution Points can be installed in all sorts of places, but the little black on white markers on the side of poles that say 'DP' refer to the pole, which also have at least one Distribution Point on it.

HTH