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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 21-Jul-24 18:14:02
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Re: contractor declined to do the outside work - what now?


[re: andrum99] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by andrum99:
It actually means both Distribution Point and Distribution Pole. If you see a pole with 'DP' on it, it means its a Distribution Pole. CP means Carrier Pole. Distribution Points can be installed in all sorts of places, but the little black on white markers on the side of poles that say 'DP' refer to the pole, which also have at least one Distribution Point on it.

HTH

This is incorrect.

The pole will be marked with a DP reference number which refers to the copper distribution point at its top.
All poles ‘distribute’ cables to some degree. The additional ones not carrying a copper DP (distribution point) are carrier poles, hence being marked (but not always) CP the number after refers to how far from the DP block, CP1, CP2, etc, etc.

Apologies to those concerned by the pedantry on display, but if people are posting incorrect information, then this needs addressing.

As to why I feel I am right. 26 years service dealing with such things day in and day out.

54-46 was my number
Standard User FibreBubble
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 21-Jul-24 18:35:56
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[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
Don't forget the exciting 'continuous DP' where a CP can be DP and a CP all at the same time crazy

Better Times!

Edited by FibreBubble (Sun 21-Jul-24 18:39:04)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 21-Jul-24 19:27:45
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Don't forget the exciting 'continuous DP' where a CP can be DP and a CP all at the same time crazy

Yes indeed …..

54-46 was my number


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Standard User PCJM40
(committed) Sun 21-Jul-24 21:45:20
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[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
if people are posting incorrect information, then this needs addressing.
Spot on
Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Mon 22-Jul-24 00:48:08
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Re: contractor declined to do the outside work - what now?


[re: PCJM40] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by PCJM40:
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
if people are posting incorrect information, then this needs addressing.
Spot on


Long way off the OP's original topic so apologies.

[rant]While this has always been a problem, with my grumpy old man hat on I think that some of the current ways are a generational thing. Back in the day you had to learn numeracy and language skills including accuracy in applying them (so things like basic sums, basic spelling, basic punctuation etc.). The educational establishment then decreed that the policy should be that those things were hindrances to the ability for people to express themselves. While this enabled the sad decline in the number of people who can write, spell and punctuate correctly or do basic mental arithmetic the unintended consequence was that people also lost the necessary disciplines when assessing information leading to the passing on of dubious information and the rise of all of the ludicrous conspiracy theories leading those unable to think astray. It is not helped by the fact that previously you could only pass on your dubious information to the bloke you met in the pub while now you can access a world wide audience. The only comfort I can draw is that whichever way you look at it, 50% of the population are stupider than the average.[/rant]

Edited by GonePostal (Mon 22-Jul-24 00:57:52)

Standard User The_Voyager
(experienced) Mon 22-Jul-24 07:09:41
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[re: GonePostal] [link to this post]
 
As a 10 year retired ex Railway Train Crew/Supervisor and before that a Post Office International Telecommunications opertor/supervisor, seeing the decline in the use of spelling, punctuation, and mental arithmatic (basic Math) really annoys me, and has been increased by the use of Americanisms because of the social media we now have.

I wonder how many British people know the association between BODMAS and PEMDAS or what either mean

Bob
Community Fibre 1Gb symmetrical (FTTH) - Linksys Velop/EG8120L / VOIP via AAISP
Previous: via WRBRIX DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, FTTC to BT, PN Unl Extra Fibre
Standard User fguk
(newbie) Mon 22-Jul-24 11:24:33
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BODMAS is being taught in British schools right now, but PEDMAS is a new one on me at least (I will ask the kids!)
Standard User The_Voyager
(experienced) Mon 22-Jul-24 11:29:23
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[re: fguk] [link to this post]
 
No need it's the same thing, just what the Yanks call BODMAS, parenthesis, exponents instead of brackets, orders

Bob
Community Fibre 1Gb symmetrical (FTTH) - Linksys Velop/EG8120L / VOIP via AAISP
Previous: via WRBRIX DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, FTTC to BT, PN Unl Extra Fibre
Standard User Apostate
(newbie) Tue 23-Jul-24 08:46:17
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[re: Thaumaturge] [link to this post]
 
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In reply to a post by Apostate:
what's a "DP"?

Distribution Pole - has drop cables to one or more properties. As opposed to Carrier Pole, which strings cables along from A to B but doesn't serve any properties. See this guide (pdf)



It serves my house. I will have a look at the codes on it when I'm home - away at the moment.

It carries an optic cable but no what I call endpoints (black lozenge shaped) - the poles adjacent to it which serve my neighbours both have lozenges. The subcontactor said he would have to work from one of these neighbours poles but the wire goes through trees which is what is creating the problem
Standard User Apostate
(newbie) Thu 25-Jul-24 09:48:13
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Well this is turning into a complete nightmare. Having ordered with BT I kept getting emails once per day saying the order was cancelled and reordered. Then yesterday the order was cancelled with no reorder.

I telephoned BT who could not find the problem. They thought it might be that Vodafone have not released my line. I phoned Vodafone who assured me this has been done.

I seem to be stuck in a loop and I don't know how to solve this.
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