In reply to a post by summat:

Great news, and the right result.

I've had Openreach (actual Openreach engineer, not contractor), and FullFibre install their ONT's in my loft, including in both cases the CSP's to avoid having them external in our conservation area.

As you can see

Oh, that's a good point. I'm in a conservation area too. When I had external meter boxes fitted for electricity and gas, both of the DNOs made me sign a disclaimer about using them in a Conservation Area (basically, to make any comeback my issue and not theirs).

That could be a very handy card to play, when my FTTP day arrives (whenever that is !)

I just tried to maximise my chances by making the installation the way I asked for as simple as it could possibly be for them.

Pre-fitting conduit with draw rope a couple of feet from where the line gets to the house from the pole.

Loft is well lit, boarded and properly fitted ladder. Sockets adjacent to other end of conduit.

I think the BT install end to end was under an hour. Neither installer batted an eye and was happy for the quick win.

In reply to a post by summat:

I just tried to maximise my chances by making the installation the way I asked for as simple as it could possibly be for them.

Pre-fitting conduit with draw rope a couple of feet from where the line gets to the house from the pole.

Loft is well lit, boarded and properly fitted ladder. Sockets adjacent to other end of conduit.

I think the BT install end to end was under an hour. Neither installer batted an eye and was happy for the quick win.

Yes, I already have and can do exactly the same in my oft etc as you describe

You can also easily extend the fibre and there relocate the ONT wherever you really want it, (at your own leisure) after the installer has gone. It's just the case of a length of SC/ACP fibre, and a coupler

In reply to a post by naylor2006:

Even in a boarded or fully converted loft the temps are pretty high, loft conversations are all the rage but man they are uncomfortable places to be in the summer.

We're skewing off topic a little here, but if a loft conversion is too warm in the summer months, it's not been done right. Done cheaply (fit a staircase, a bit of boarding on the floor and under the roof felt, throw up some lights, throw down some carpet) then I agree - it'll probably be a dreadful torture chamber for your least-favoured child. But it absolutely should not be done like this!

My own has 12" of solid foam insulation below the tiles and it absolutely does not get too warm in the summer. The biggest problem is actually if someone leaves doors open downstairs, without windows open in the loft - then the hot air rises from the rest of the house and gets trapped upstairs, which can be a little uncomfortable, but providing you leave the door shut during the day, and a bit of ventilation, it actually remains cooler than the rest of the house due to the level of insulation. Likewise in the winter, except that being at the top of the house it tends to collect heat far more effectively than the other rooms. We only needed a very modestly-sized radiator to heat it and it's never been cold in the winter.

Edited by daern (Sun 28-Jul-24 17:14:22)

In reply to a post by summat:

Great news, and the right result.

I've had Openreach (actual Openreach engineer, not contractor), and FullFibre install their ONT's in my loft, including in both cases the CSP's to avoid having them external in our conservation area.

We are overhead fed from a pole and I installed a metal conduit to pull the external fibre in through, no problems on either installation.

As you can see

I live in a listed building in a conservation area, like most/all the other houses down our road, no problems with external csp's

Absolutely accept it's accepted but it's nice to avoid it all the same.

I was entirely willing to have the CSP external and have fibre down and back up the wall, but again, it was nice to not have that.

I figured ask nicely for my ideal outcome first and fall back to external CSP, even had a fallback from that to ONT downstairs with ethernet back to cabinet in loft, but again, asked for preferred outcome first and they were willing.

In reply to a post by burble:

In reply to a post by summat:

Great news, and the right result.

I've had Openreach (actual Openreach engineer, not contractor), and FullFibre install their ONT's in my loft, including in both cases the CSP's to avoid having them external in our conservation area.

We are overhead fed from a pole and I installed a metal conduit to pull the external fibre in through, no problems on either installation.

As you can see

I live in a listed building in a conservation area, like most/all the other houses down our road, no problems with external csp's

No you are right, they have to be done right but ive never found a way around locking up in the morning then coming home in the evening after work to find all the heat then trapped below the insulation.....its fine if you can be at home managing the situation but it wasnt an option to leave windows open where we lived on the ground floor to get the air though.