n/m andy pandy already posted about xg and xgs pon

Edited by Taras (Sat 17-Aug-24 09:35:56)

In reply to a post by naylor2006:

In reply to a post by E300:

Yes Cerberus are one such company that offers it. I suspect due to the increased costs the demand is so low its just not worth most ISPs having it as an option.

The story used to be that the £600 upfront cost was a deposit for any potential upgrade to Openreach's kit. As the bandwidth is shared between 30 or so properties, and offering one person this faster upload speed might cause others to slow down, it was said they may need to move the customer to something called XGS-PON which can run separately over the top leaving everyone else as they were before. I don't think this has ever happened and I'm not sure was actually ever the case or true.

The £600 and higher monthly costs charged by Openreach and passed on by the ISP are more to avoid business users moving from more expensive leased lines to cheaper FTTP, so it has deliberately been made unattractive.

Now we have many Altnets that offer higher upload speeds Openreach may need to change its stance of course. Altnets generally don't need to protect more lucrative leased line connections, they just want as many customers on their books as they can get, and just hope to balance the books at some future date.

This all makes alot of sense, I hope the altnets do trigger OR to allow better upload speeds, or at least allow some customer to pay a little more for it if you want to.

At my business we pay £650 a month for a 1Gbit Leased Line, so yeah it is very unattractive for a residential customer to pay £200 for 220Mbps.

I pay £265 via VMB - sorry but that £650 is CRAZY!

Indeed a very informative post.

Our 1Gb leased line at work is through Vodafone, Openreach did the work still and it’s yeah around 800 quid a month.

You can't really compare prices because a huge amount of it depends on the distances involved. You can get close to £200 in a city but if you're out in the sticks looking at a 4 km fibre run to the nearest node and the only provider in the exchange is BT Wholesale the prices can go wild.

In reply to a post by jpm:

You can't really compare prices because a huge amount of it depends on the distances involved. You can get close to £200 in a city but if you're out in the sticks looking at a 4 km fibre run to the nearest node and the only provider in the exchange is BT Wholesale the prices can go wild.

Thing is, we are out in the sticks in Somerset so with that in mind the leased line price isn’t so bad.

I understand the overall challenges that OR have to offer residential more upload bandwidth but it would be nice to have a little bit more, such as 200Mbps. Alt nets offering same speed up and down for less money a lot of the time I hope will eventually provoke OR, but probably not. I

In reply to a post by naylor2006:

Indeed a very informative post.

Not really lol I was just being a bit of a douche - so i apologise  

Unfortunately you're probably a decade behind where you should be in terms of fibre options because CDS has been repeated failures ever since it was conceived.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

The 1000/220 package is intended for business customers. You will find many business ISP's selling it.

Can you name any apart from Cerberus?

Not even BT Business sells this service.

All Gamma resellers have access to it