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Standard User fiox
(newbie) Wed 16-Oct-24 20:56:51
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Re: Complicated FTTC Situation with OpenReach


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As I advised there was FTTC at this propery before it went on sale.

Jesus this forum is a waste of time. No one reads anything.
The neighbour has FTTC as we speak and the bt link still says "waitlist" as well.

I will indeed by going with Starlink. As the attitude of the people here is the same as OpenReach can't be effed to read anything.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 16-Oct-24 21:59:17
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As I advised there was FTTC at this propery before it went on sale.

Street cabinet may have 128 possible connections for FTTC, and when your previous owner disconnected, for you to buy, someone in the road whom previously couldn’t get FTTC took the slot. Until a slot frees up (unknown time) then you won’t be able to order FTTC.

Aquiss or AAISP should be able to tell you that, sad that Zen did not (they used to be good); but the other brands you have tried are all mass market so less flexible.

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Edited by jchamier (Wed 16-Oct-24 22:00:16)

Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Wed 16-Oct-24 22:37:37
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Jesus this forum is a waste of time.
I think at this point all those people here capable of helping you have vacated the thread 🤣


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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 16-Oct-24 22:44:48
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Standard User pluralist
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Oct-24 00:59:07
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I will indeed by going with Starlink. As the attitude of the people here is the same as OpenReach can't be effed to read anything.
Maybe you just told us a bigger problem you have.

It's a pity you seem not to have noticed a major post a few minutes prior to the one I'm replying to, showing an ISP reading the thread. (Note that forum rules prohibit ISPs directly soliciting business).

But your attitude might not have impressed.As remarked by another poster.

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Standard User pluralist
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Oct-24 01:00:34
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As I advised there was FTTC at this propery before it went on sale.
Then sue for fraud.

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Standard User Dassa
(learned) Thu 17-Oct-24 09:49:08
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Hi,
In reply to a post by fiox:
As I advised there was FTTC at this propery before it went on sale.

Jesus this forum is a waste of time. No one reads anything.
The neighbour has FTTC as we speak and the bt link still says "waitlist" as well.

I will indeed by going with Starlink. As the attitude of the people here is the same as OpenReach can't be effed to read anything.

The word "waitlist" on the BT checker indicates that is a waiting list for FTTC. That would explain why none of the internet providers are able to offer you a connection. It is nothing to do with the state of the Openreach equipment at the property.

Why would Openreach need to read anything when they have provided a facility for ISPs to check the status of the line and that checker correctly shows that there is a waitlist (as evidenced by the BT Wholesale checker showing it). It is not Openreach's problem if their customers (the ISPs) cannot read - maybe you should be directing your ire at them?

The BT checker gives an idea of the expected FTTC speeds should you get on to the waitlist and then get to the top of it.

Many ISPs do not support putting people on the waitlist so if you want the possibility of FTTC in the future at that address then you will need to find one that does. For now, the only Openreach carried form of internet connection you can get is SOADSL although, as you have found, not all providers are willing to offer this, especially if FTTC is available at the property, even if only via a waitlist.
Standard User daern
(member) Thu 17-Oct-24 12:26:07
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Why would Openreach need to read anything when they have provided a facility for ISPs to check the status of the line and that checker correctly shows that there is a waitlist (as evidenced by the BT Wholesale checker showing it). It is not Openreach's problem if their customers (the ISPs) cannot read - maybe you should be directing your ire at them?

What is Openreach's process for extending cabinet capacity at a given location? TBH, a waiting list is hardly an acceptable solution as I would imagine the number of people who (intentionally!) cancel their internet service now is pretty low, unless there is some alternative (e.g. an altnet) available to them.

Can an ISP request this from OR or is there some automatic process based on the number of premises waiting for connection? It would be a bit daft if, as I presume is the case, most ISPs won't accept orders for connections on a waiting list, thus there's little feedback to OR that they are under-capacity in a given location. "Oooh, look. We have exactly the right amount of provision at all of these cabinets because they are all exactly 100% utilised with noone waiting for a connection!"

A question to OP too - I assume you've checked that there's no other altnet operating in the area, and none planning any deployments? This is hard to know as there's not really any centralised way to check, but it might be worth a look around your area to see if there's any sign of FTTP provision nearby.
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Oct-24 12:44:43
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What is Openreach's process for extending cabinet capacity at a given location?

In short, they don't any more - with all the focus on FTTP, there's no incentive for them to expand FTTC cabs, even at pinch points. (Remember that the broadband USO is on BT, not Openreach)

I thought I saw some articles about this not too long ago, but the most recent I can find are from 2020:

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/08/rise-i...

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/8808-five-local-...
Standard User witchunt
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 17-Oct-24 12:46:13
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With FTTP rollout being the absolute priority I doubt very much if they are building any extra FTTC capacity. Only chance for the OP is for either a port to become free or (slim chance) and previously faulty port to be repaired.
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