Do multiple providers serve flats (MDUs)?

Hello,

Is it possible that both Openreach and an independent company serves the same block of flats? I've just entered my postcode into Netomnia which tells me they are ready to build but require wayleave from the landlord. At the same time, Openreach tells me we're part of their build plans.

If both go ahead then the communal area would end up having 2 fibre cabinets belonging to either company. I'm not sure whether the landlord would be happy if this were the case.

Or is it possible that one of them is giving the wrong info and that only 1 fibre company is allowed to deploy to the property?

Thanks.

If its like my (tiny) block of flats, I have two FTTP providers in the street, (toob & Netomina) and neither can serve my flat as the landlord has refused permission. In fact it appears the landlord has not even engaged in conversation with either. I luckily have Virgin Media coax that was already here when I moved in. No Openreach FTTP in this area, but they will arrive at some point, and want to compete.

Leasehold flats are a headache for all.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

If its like my (tiny) block of flats, I have two FTTP providers in the street, (toob & Netomina) and neither can serve my flat as the landlord has refused permission. In fact it appears the landlord has not even engaged in conversation with either. I luckily have Virgin Media coax that was already here when I moved in. No Openreach FTTP in this area, but they will arrive at some point, and want to compete.

Leasehold flats are a headache for all.

Sorry to hear this. My landlord is willing to as they contacted Openreach who then told them they weren't ready yet. I think I'll wait for Openreach before raising the subject again.

Why doesn't your landlord allow? It adds to the value of the property. The installations are free and don't require power.

In reply to a post by squarecrumpets:

Why doesn't your landlord allow? It adds to the value of the property. The installations are free and don't require power.

Who knows; they are a housing assocation that has most proprties in the London boroughs, have probably more than enough work for the administrative teams. They don't respond to letters from residents, nevermind letters from internet providers. Unfortunately I gather this is quite common, and I probably need to get a group of residents together to write to our MP and to the head of the association.

That legacy cable is available probably means legally they don't have to do anything.

Just a small wall mounted splitter box, probably hidden in a cupboard or cleaners store or such like.
Being in a plan doesn't guarantee it will go ahead, landlord may refuse or ignore

Edited by witchunt (Sun 09-Mar-25 14:53:19)

In reply to a post by witchunt:

Just a small wall mounted splitter box, probably hidden in a cupboard or cleaners store or such like.
Being in a plan doesn't guarantee it will go ahead, landlord may refuse or ignore

Hi yes I've seen the Openreach training video for installers, but if there are several providers then then cupboard will end up with several splitter boxes won't it? Not sure if the landlord will be happy with that.

They are quite compact though

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by squarecrumpets:

Why doesn't your landlord allow? It adds to the value of the property. The installations are free and don't require power.

Who knows; they are a housing assocation that has most proprties in the London boroughs, have probably more than enough work for the administrative teams. They don't respond to letters from residents, nevermind letters from internet providers. Unfortunately I gather this is quite common, and I probably need to get a group of residents together to write to our MP and to the head of the association.

That legacy cable is available probably means legally they don't have to do anything.

I think ultimately residents have to threaten the security of tenure of Housing Association Board members by standing for election on a ticket of providing fibre for all tenants with a choice of at least 2 ISPs and preferably more. Posts here titled with the name of the Housing Association plus a Facebook campaign with the aim of sufficient support to gain nomination within 2 years and to become a threat to incumbents within 4 years looks to be the likely time scale to get results.

I remember being a member of a building society 40 years ago and a certain Paul Hadleigh Twyman stood for the board without bring nominated by them. This happened for about 4 years and then they got so fed up with him that they coopted him. Not that I remember anything significant happening as a result. After a few years, I began to feel that he had become part of a comfortable establishment and rather wished someone would stand against him.

So the aim is not to become part of the comfortable establishment, but to make providing fibre for all tenants with a choice of at least 2 ISPs and preferably more an essential part of the comfort zone for the establishment

do you know what a riser is??

In reply to a post by DFScale:

So the aim is not to become part of the comfortable establishment, but to make providing fibre for all tenants with a choice of at least 2 ISPs and preferably more an essential part of the comfort zone for the establishment

Building the local group that wants this is the challenge in 2025. Fibre is still a luxury for many. Things will change in the next 5 to 10 years. Openreach copper and VM coax is better than some other places.