In reply to a post by Youngy:

I'm currently on the 900MB FTTP full fibre product with EE, apparently they don't offer 1.6GB in this area. Is the 1.6GB some additional technology? Are there rollout plans published we can check?

It's not really a "technology" question per se.

More a case of what handover exchanges have the requisite BT backhaul network connectivity in place. Most of the larger metro sites do but not *all* of the 955 or so such sites do. Some handover exchange sites may also require headend ONT upgrades, but that's less and less of an issue.

If you have an existing 1 GBps capable Openreach ONT it will require an Openreach appointment to swap to a 2.5 Gbps ONT - still basically GPON though - and will either be a Nokia or Adtran unit in all likelihood.

Interesting to see the new ONT options in the latest update of the SIN 506B document.

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In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

could I ask what you cannot do on 900Mbps that would make you want 1600 Mbps

My first home domestic broadband was before the year 2000, and was 512kbps download speed (0.5 Mbps). Almost everyone I knew was using upto 56k dialup that they had to reconnect every 2 hours. This question has been repeated ever since.

Avenue Q always gives the correct answer.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Interesting to see the new ONT options in the latest update of the SIN 506B document.

They paid Huawei a while back for profiles to use any ONT with those OLTs. Presumably they're keeping the Adtran and Nokia matched on ONT/OLT for GPON and definitely on XGSPON.

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Avenue Q always gives the correct answer.

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In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Interesting to see the new ONT options in the latest update of the SIN 506B document.

They paid Huawei a while back for profiles to use any ONT with those OLTs. Presumably they're keeping the Adtran and Nokia matched on ONT/OLT for GPON and definitely on XGSPON.

i suspect both Nokia and Adtran combo pon kit to work slightly differently plus it prevents weird gremlins to surface

In reply to a post by Youngy:

what's happening in 2026?

Openreach will be publicly trialling xgs-pon (10gbits/s pon up/down). As they have already released speeds for the new service, I would expect it will be a short trial to eak out isp and on field issues ..

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

In reply to a post by Youngy:

I'm currently on the 900MB FTTP full fibre product with EE, apparently they don't offer 1.6GB in this area. Is the 1.6GB some additional technology? Are there rollout plans published we can check?

It's not really a "technology" question per se.

More a case of what handover exchanges have the requisite BT backhaul network connectivity in place. Most of the larger metro sites do but not *all* of the 955 or so such sites do. Some handover exchange sites may also require headend ONT upgrades, but that's less and less of an issue.

If you have an existing 1 GBps capable Openreach ONT it will require an Openreach appointment to swap to a 2.5 Gbps ONT - still basically GPON though - and will either be a Nokia or Adtran unit in all likelihood.

Most will now be upgraded ready for xgspon anyway.

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In reply to a post by Youngy:

what's happening in 2026?

Openreach will be publicly trialling xgs-pon (10gbits/s pon up/down).

But possibly only in areas where they are doing government-funded rollouts (BDUK type C). It's very unclear at this stage when it might be available to the masses.

You should also note that the announced pricing for 1G/1G is very high - wholesale £100+VAT per month. If you want anything faster than that, be prepared to pay similar to leased-line prices.

To align with this. the pricing for 1000/220 has just been reduced from £97.78 to £75+VAT at wholesale. The 500/165 tier remains at £68.76+VAT - see price list.

In reality, you're going to be unable to find any retail ISP who sells any of these tiers, since the pricing is so unattractive. Even BT themselves don't.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reality, you're going to be unable to find any retail ISP who sells any of these tiers, since the pricing is so unattractive. Even BT themselves don't.

You may have hit on the reason big ISP Sky Broadband has started to use non openreach networks.