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Standard User SamBGB
(learned) Thu 14-Aug-25 17:05:44
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FTTP Packet Loss


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So seeing some packet loss on my shiny new FTTP connection, I understand packet loss of any kind is no good. I have not say I am not seeing anything negative related this (that I have noticed anyway).

My Broadband Ping

I am seeing smaller spikes throughout the day but mostly this is happening between 8am - 10pm.

There is an Openreach Engineer booked for tomorrow.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Aug-25 20:40:35
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There is an Openreach Engineer booked for tomorrow.

Errrm …. what do you think the engineer will be able to do ?

They will check the light loss readings, and insure they are within parameters. They *might* connect their laptop direct to your ONT and do so co-op testing.

How is this fault affecting your service ?

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Standard User SamBGB
(learned) Thu 14-Aug-25 21:10:56
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You’ve asked the first question and then proceeded to answer it? I wouldn’t have known how the OR engineer would have diagnosed the issue but I am assuming it would have been the first step to check the local infra?

To your second question I am actually not “aware” of any adverse effects on the connection if I am honest.

I setup the BQM noticed it, confirmed it with f8lure as well, reported it to Aquiss and received a text today to say that an openreach engineer would attend tomorrow.


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Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 14-Aug-25 21:14:01
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I can only assume Aquiss have run a test that's reported something like the light levels out of range, it would be very unlike them to just book a engineer and risk the charge for a fault outside the Openreach network.
Standard User Bam16
(newbie) Fri 15-Aug-25 11:30:28
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I have a minor number of ping replies missing on my BQM through the day, but I have pretty good response time through most of the day.
However a little while back I tried three different routers on my fttp line (a plusnet hub2, tp-link vr600 and a synology wrx560.) They each showed noticeably different BQM graphs on the same line...
using the internet I didn't notice any difference with each router, The synology has the worst dropped pings (a bit like yours but a few more, but that's the one I decided to stick with as the difference only shows on the BQM graphs, the synology runs a media server and a couple of other things and lets me configure VLANs - so it's probably busy at times and sees the pings as a low priority.

The best looking BQM graph came from the old TP-Link VR600.

So you just need to be aware of what you are measuring and it could be your router that is dropping the packets and your internet connection is working well.
Standard User SamBGB
(learned) Fri 15-Aug-25 11:34:15
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I guess thats a potential cause.. I am using a UCG-Fiber so it should be handling the ping request and its not under any heavy load.

Aquiss have said they run a line test and it was the test that recommended an engineer so think there is something that may not be quite right.
Standard User SamBGB
(learned) Fri 15-Aug-25 11:49:20
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The Openreach engineer has attended and feels everything in the property looks good, however he did mention there where BIP errors and said that it could be a faulty or loose SPF connector at the exchange (there has been a batch of them recently apparently) so he is going to go ahead and re-seat or change it or something.
Standard User Bam16
(newbie) Fri 15-Aug-25 11:49:59
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Here's my current BQM FYI... https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

Can't see an easy way to share the older graphs from the other routers. The Plusnet Hub2 didn't have any dropped pings but response times varied a lot and the tp-link had no dropped pings and similar response times to the synology.

Would be interested to hear how you get on and if they find any issues on your connection.... Thanks
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Aug-25 14:16:28
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Aquiss have said they run a line test and it was the test that recommended an engineer so think there is something that may not be quite right.

So LTOK/customer apparatus then ? They wouldn’t have booked an appointment against a test result that showed an external issue.

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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 15-Aug-25 19:20:54
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In reply to a post by SamBGB:
The Openreach engineer has attended and feels everything in the property looks good, however he did mention there where BIP errors and said that it could be a faulty or loose SPF connector at the exchange (there has been a batch of them recently apparently) so he is going to go ahead and re-seat or change it or something.

...will be bit errors rather than BIP errors.

If it was in the exchange at the OLT, then it would also be affecting all other customers on that PON - though it may not be reported / checked.
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