Just extended forward looking on https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map#... to allow 128 days into the future. For those looking for a glimmer of hope

Very useful, thank you!

In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

Now of-course I haven't yet received an email from Openreach despite registering my interest a few years ago. I'm not sure from the posters in this thread who claim that they've received emails, whether this is a firm confirmation that a wayleave has been agreed in place or whether Openreach genuinely added their specific postcode to the planned red lines!

OR don't need a wayleave, unless its into a mdu or fibre is crossing private land. For me; the OR emails, saying the fibre is ready, was for OR's website and indeed it had gone live along with the BTwholesale page.

In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

Until there is an official confirmation such as a letter, email or news confirmation on a housing management website none of us should take the checker seriously. Most of us know that when Openreach claim "We'll be building in this area" or "We're building in this area now" does not mean the entire area will be upgraded to Full Fibre. Again, this is subject to a wayleave agreement or desire from Openreach to really have an interest in covering those properties within the area. Or it may mean that Openreach would like to bring in Full Fibre but obstacles such as a wayleave prevent them from working and completing the build plan. All of us should be aware of this before getting excited or having high hopes. Only a letter with a wayleave agreement will excite me but even then I shouldn't be too hopeful!

I'm not sure why you are overly talking about wayleaves.The OR checker has always been vague, emailing OR can give a better idea as to when and if your property is covered.

Also with the TBB info map you can get a further idea as to if theres future plans for your property. We had a 6 to 7 year journey to get OR fibre. So I understdand your frustration.

I'm not sure why you are overly talking about wayleaves.

Because that this posters raison d’etre.

They live in an MDU, and have had wayleave issues (maybe even still do have) All posts are swiftly turned around to their specific issues.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I'm not sure why you are overly talking about wayleaves.

Because that this posters raison d’etre.

They live in an MDU, and have had wayleave issues (maybe even still do have) All posts are swiftly turned around to their specific issues.

Well we all live in our own bubble - hence the "its all over facebook" - nope its on your own version of fb, somebodies's will be different.

Anyways BLaZiNgSPEED may have said that he does in another thread and i've missed that .. Hence the Q - which is reasonable

In reply to a post by Taras:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I'm not sure why you are overly talking about wayleaves.

Because that this posters raison d’etre.

They live in an MDU, and have had wayleave issues (maybe even still do have) All posts are swiftly turned around to their specific issues.

Well we all live in our own bubble - hence the "its all over facebook" - nope its on your own version of fb, somebodies's will be different.

Anyways BLaZiNgSPEED may have said that he does in another thread and i've missed that .. Hence the Q - which is reasonable

For sure. It wasn’t a criticism. Just an observation

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

They live in an MDU, and have had wayleave issues (maybe even still do have) All posts are swiftly turned around to their specific issues.

They certainly do.

BLaZiNgSPEED was sadly conflating MDUs and Sdu rollout. We all know the hellhole MDU occupiers can be in with fttp rollout. Sadly we only hear of the situations where there is an issue.

I do have genuine sympathy for his and many is his situation.

In reply to a post by Taras:

BLaZiNgSPEED was sadly conflating MDUs and Sdu rollout.

I don't think he was, he was turning the conversation to himself as he always does.

In reply to a post by Taras:

BLaZiNgSPEED was sadly conflating MDUs and Sdu rollout. We all know the hellhole MDU occupiers can be in with fttp rollout. Sadly we only hear of the situations where there is an issue.

I do have genuine sympathy for his and many is his situation.

Indeed, I may have unintentionally conflated the MDU and SDU rollout. The problem is that when I look at it from my perspective and the area I live in, it is predominantly served with almost 100% of MDU buildings.

If we look at the Bishopsgate Exchange for example, that will serve part of the City and Tower Hamlets London area. If you now look at the demographics of Aldgate, Aldgate East, Whitechapel and Spitalfields you will see there are very few SDU houses available in the area. You can see if you roam around Google Maps.

I have no doubt that the issue with wayleave doesn't concern SDU residents the way it does for someone like myself who lives in an MDU.

So, when I look at the Openreach checker showing that they are building in my area right now (Bishopsgate Exchange), I immediately question how they will cover majority of the area unless Openreach are 100% confident that they will not run into the obstacle of wayleave delaying the build plan. Some housing owners will grant it spontaneously, while others might be held back.

While a wayleave may have been granted for Community Fibre and VM Nexfibre, there is still the worry that they might not necessarily grant an agreement for Openreach FTTP as well. Just as I see some places have wayleave for Openreach/Hyperoptic but wouldn't have the same Altnets that were granted for our housing association.

I remember it took us exactly 20 months (1 year and 8 months) following a wayleave agreement for Community Fibre to finally go live for us! The same is probably going to happen for Nexfibre since June 2024 letter that we received.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

In reply to a post by Taras:

BLaZiNgSPEED was sadly conflating MDUs and Sdu rollout.

I don't think he was, he was turning the conversation to himself as he always does.

Not intentionally of-course!
While it may seem I am turning the conversation onto myself I'm also looking it from the same perspective concern of others. The Openreach checker doesn't quite distinguish between areas served with SDU and MDUs. If an area such as a town or Zone 5/6 of London has more houses than MDU buildings then I guess it is more reliable to trust that the build plan is happening right now!

But I know this doesn't apply for me especially living in Zone 1 as a wayleave that was granted for Nexfibre last year is still pending and no works have been done inside my building yet. This suggests that it is very unlikely that Openreach will be building right now for our estate within the area unless it is followed by a very quick wayleave agreement. I'm sure others in similar areas served with majority of MDU buildings will have the same concern.

My prediction is that Openreach FTTP will successfully cover majority of areas that have houses before they manage to cover areas with mostly tower blocks.