Whilst slower speeds such as 80/20 and 40/10 are available, 150 generally is a lower price. I think OR have an 'offer' on this speed to ISP's.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

We can't once we move to FTTP then Openreach won't let you order SoGEA/FTTC & G.Fast anymore.

I wasn't clear in my post, but I meant the same level of speed. As others have responded Plusnet do this, which for some people would be quite dramatic if they only managed 30 Mbps on a VDSL, they could actually get the full 76/80 on an FTTP connection... maybe for the same price.

It would be in Openreach interests to make that possible, to move people off copper faster.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

It would be in Openreach interests to make that possible, to move people off copper faster.

this is the challenge that OR has with the exchange clousres. Some who can get fttp just won't move (some obviously has equipment that isn't upgradable and thats semi understandable)

The reality even without exchange closures there is little reason to stay on copper.

For those taking the BT social tariff, only 40/10 or 80/20 are available options on FTTC or FTTP

In reply to a post by burble:

Whilst slower speeds such as 80/20 and 40/10 are available, 150 generally is a lower price. I think OR have an 'offer' on this speed to ISP's.

Its a shame not ever ISP offers the lower speeds as it would be an easier sell to get punters off of copper.

Would be good to see a joint campaign between Openreach and the large ISPs selling the benefits of moving to FTTP (not just the usual stuff about lighting speeds).

In reply to a post by Taras:

this is the challenge that OR has with the exchange clousres. Some who can get fttp just won't move (some obviously has equipment that isn't upgradable and thats semi understandable)

And hence the "stop sell" on new orders, migrations, and modifies in certain areas. As soon as someone moves out, it forces FTTP on the newcomers. Ditto if the existing occupant wants to change ISP or change speed.

After a few years, natural churn will get rid of most of the copper users. The last remaining few - well that's what the exchange closure trial is all about, how best to mop them up.

If you tell people they have to pay more to stay on copper, I think that'll make most of them move. For example, if you tell people they have to take FTTP to recontract, and conversely if they choose to stay on copper, they pay out-of-contract rates.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

In reply to a post by burble:

Whilst slower speeds such as 80/20 and 40/10 are available, 150 generally is a lower price. I think OR have an 'offer' on this speed to ISP's.

Its a shame not ever ISP offers the lower speeds as it would be an easier sell to get punters off of copper.

Would be good to see a joint campaign between Openreach and the large ISPs selling the benefits of moving to FTTP (not just the usual stuff about lighting speeds).

I last checked 'offers' for ISP's who have 'landline' option, just before Black Friday, IIRC EE, BT, TalkTalk, Vodafone, and Sky all had 150 as the cheapest option (excluding social tariff), checked again just now and TalkTalk, and Sky still have it as cheapest, I think Vodafone might also still offer it as cheapest as well.

In reply to a post by burble:

I last checked 'offers' for ISP's who have 'landline' option, just before Black Friday, IIRC EE, BT, TalkTalk, Vodafone, and Sky all had 150 as the cheapest option (excluding social tariff), checked again just now and TalkTalk, and Sky still have it as cheapest, I think Vodafone might also still offer it as cheapest as well.

It must be areas specific as Sky's cheapest package is Full Fibre 100 in my area and Full Fibre 150 is an extra £2 on top of that.

Sky also full fibre 75 (well for me at least) but it's the same price as 100 (£26)

Well I was going by the 'current broadband offers' on this site which shows Sky Full Fibre 150 at £24/m.