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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 28-Apr-10 19:45:34
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Now Connected


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Hi,
Just got connected, haven't had the email yet but all seems to running smoothly so far.
My stats at this point are

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 7616 kbps 832 kbps
Line Attenuation 28.0 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 19.0 db 15.0 db

Any ideas what speed i should getting after the training period?

Thanks
Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 28-Apr-10 23:43:00
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Re: Now Connected


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Depends on whether you are on 8 Meg IPStream (ADSL Max) or 20 Meg LLU (ADSL2+). What does your router say is Connection or Line Mode?

If the former, as I suspect from your current speeds, then that's about it!

If the latter, then you could expect about 16.5 Meg, but you should be getting at least 12.5 Meg even to start with, as I did recently when I upgraded to 20 Meg LLU.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 29-Apr-10 06:28:28
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Re: Now Connected


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Hi,
I'm on the LLU 20 meg, my line stats of this am have changed to this.

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 12286 kbps 1023 kbps
Line Attenuation 30.5 db 15.3 db
Noise Margin 11.2 db 13.3 db


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 29-Apr-10 13:35:44
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Good, that's more like it!

It can only go up from here smile

Tho' surprised attenuation has increased; probably will go back.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB

Edited by XRaySpeX (Thu 29-Apr-10 13:37:53)

Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 29-Apr-10 13:40:11
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Re: Now Connected


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The attenuation will increase as it is measured across the band in use and with higher frequencies having higher attenuations it is obvious.





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Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 29-Apr-10 13:42:07
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A useful calculator:

http://www.farina1.com/adsl/default.aspx





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Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 29-Apr-10 13:51:17
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Obvious? Then why did mine stay constant at 27 dB from before upgrade to 20 Meg and throughout 20 Meg stabilisation period?

EDIT: Ah! I guess you are assuming the unstated info. that OP was not on ADSL2+ (e.g. ADSL Max) previously.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB

Edited by XRaySpeX (Thu 29-Apr-10 13:55:51)

Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 29-Apr-10 13:53:11
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Incorrectly reported.





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Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 29-Apr-10 13:56:55
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What was?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB

Edited by XRaySpeX (Thu 29-Apr-10 13:57:20)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 29-Apr-10 16:04:12
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Will be interested if you can report how your stats improve over the stabilisation period, as I am in a similar position.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 29-Apr-10 19:03:26
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I'll update as I go no probs, any idea how often the sync gets updated? Is it a daily change?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 29-Apr-10 23:01:20
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I've had daily changes at about 6 PM for the 1st 3 days and since that none, for the last 3 days. I'm hoping for more as I don't think I've reached my optimum yet. I'm now at 15.5 Meg @ 10 dB NM, but I suspect Orange won't lower NM to 6, as most other ISPs do, unless I ask them.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 30-Apr-10 07:52:37
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New stats as of this morning, going very well as told i would only get 9.5 meg on the orange page and by the service desk.

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 16379 kbps 1316 kbps
Line Attenuation 30.5 db 15.3 db
Noise Margin 10.8 db 6.0 db
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(deleted) Fri 30-Apr-10 08:33:08
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-May-10 23:18:44
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Newest stats, download has dropped a bit, still much faster than the 9.5 i was originally quoted,

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 15704 kbps 1288 kbps
Line Attenuation 30.5 db 15.2 db
Noise Margin 8.5 db 6.7 db

Unfortunately it's slower than i had a few days ago which is a shame, any idea if it will sync upwards or will it sync down as it's more stable in their eye's at lower sync??

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-May-10 23:48:12
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Thanks. I did think your previous figures were slightly too high, considering your attenuation is about 3 dB higher than mine, tho' we are measuring with different routers.

My current stats, after 11 days stabilisation, are:
Speed (DS/US): 15977 K/1185 K, Attn: 28 dB/13 dB, SNM: 9 dB/5 dB

They have been fairly consistent and reliable throughout. These are the best I've had so far, tho' today I asked Orange to reduce my DS NM to the usual 6 dB. The CS who took my call did not know much about NMs and such but put a ticket for the engineers to escalate it. He ended by thanking me for teaching him about BB smile

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-May-10 07:57:15
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I did try the livebox one day but it synced lower than the netgear router i have so don't think i'll be using again, and wireless range didn't seem up too much either..
Standard User XRaySpeX
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 05-May-10 13:29:05
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FYI: Mine's not the Livebox; it's the Siemens. Have found it fairly reliable in past.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
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