if they need unlimted later on they can always switch to the £20 plan if you do go over and if you want little more upload/download speed £25,

but once you're past 15mb your not going to notice it much unless there is 5-6 users streaming HD stuff at the same time and wifi typically is not fast enough once you get past 30mb any way unless all your devices are N stuff (even if they are you tend to have to be in the same room to get the higher speeds on wifi)

i would recommend keeping a lookout on how much data you are using as it is very easy to use data fast when you got an high speed connection (uploading counts towards the cap as well)

it is little bad on the point that the rep in store was little misinformed or lied about the speed you may be getting, orange are norm OK with stuff like this (guess it depends where you live if they are pushing for sales or keeping customers happy)

Edited by leexgx (Tue 23-Apr-13 05:30:41)

Its only 6.5 Mbps, so yes will be a good quality HD file.

It is also why Sky use download rather than stream, as this improves quality.

NOTE if you are watching a live show where they are uplinking using satellite usually that uplink has a 25 Mbps limit, a broadcast from the couried tape might actually give a better quality picture.

What's the normal broadcast bit rate over satellite or cable these days - is it about 15Mbps for 1920x1080 HD?

Its in the range 9 to around 13 I think, have not looked at the transponder records for a while.

Thanks Andrew

It's amazing what can be done with1080p H.264 compression - e.g. by comparison a SD 576i/p DVD-video using the MPEG-2 codec would need the maximum 10Mbps for best quality.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

Rather than talking to EE shop or phone customer service and getting unverified and misleading info about the fibre packages and the speeds they will give you, you could see this in writing directly from your Member Centre on the Orange website: Change your home package

Yes i agree i should have looked on the members centre at Orange, but at the time i was walking down the local high street and just wanted to talk to someone face to face

Sorry your thread got hijacked into an arcane technical discussion of streaming, in which you expressed no interest.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

Sorry your thread got hijacked into an arcane technical discussion of streaming, in which you expressed no interest.

Not a problem... i don't mind at all

In reply to a post by 4M2:

What's the normal broadcast bit rate over satellite or cable these days - is it about 15Mbps for 1920x1080 HD?

For satellite - average video rate is usually anywhere between 7Mbps and 20Mbps, and mainly depends on the channel. Averaged video bitrates over the past 3 calendar days:

BBC One HD: 8444 kbit/s
BBC Two HD: 7293 kbit/s
ITV HD: 10269 kbit/s
C4 HD: 8968 kbit/s
C5 HD: 10202 kbit/s
Sky News HD: 14774 kbit/s
Sky Sports 1 HD: 18289 kbit/s
Sky Premiere HD (movies): 7631 kbit/s
Nat Geo HD: 9567 kbit/s

(Recorded shows are delivered almost exclusively on HDCAM SR - 440Mbps prior to offline encoding (mostly) - and shouldn't have passed through any damaging perceptual codec or dipped under 100Mbps in grading or post-prod. The HDCAM bitrate cannot be compared as it is not the broadcast codec of course. The majority of OBs are from connected venues and delivered via fibre as uncompressed 1.5Gb/s HD-SDI - where satellite or microwave links need to be used in some part or the whole chain, the common standards agreed by the major UK broadcasters dictate 45Mbps H.264 or 60Mbps MPEG2.)

Thanks vimto_girl that's really interesting

I recall sometime ago that there was a issue whether studios could accept footage shot with a Canon 5D mark II still camera - 1080p 38Mbps H.264 - and I believe it was found to be acceptable in certain circumstances.

Apologies again for misunderstanding your post regarding the iPlayer and HD bit rates/file sizes.