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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 20-Nov-13 04:25:03
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Quite simply if you are interested in P2P and Newsgroups you do not sign up with EE. Their Traffic Management policy is there for all to see.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 20-Nov-13 11:48:26
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funny that

i get 30meg throughput thats 3000kb + anytime of day using tixati for torrents and never see throttling with anything infact i saw ~6000kb a few times

EE fibre 76/20 see sig for speedtest

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 20-Nov-13 14:11:38
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I don't use them so I don't care but Glosnost says I'm throttled on BitTorrent.

P.S. you omitted some zeroes from your figures, e.g. 30000Kb.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 20-Nov-13 14:41:50
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tbh i have never seen any throttling in my area with any isp i have used since having adslMAX with BT and was put on the "naughty pipe" i have used o2, talktalk, sky ect and always full line speed.

i dont do that much downloading on p2p now i have found g2play cheap game keys so get my games via HTTP on steam/origin.

and yh sorry about the figures never have been very good with maths tongue
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 20-Nov-13 15:53:38
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Quite simply if you are interested in P2P and Newsgroups you do not sign up with EE. Their Traffic Management policy is there for all to see.


Well it's truthfully not diastrous

I am getting around 3.3mbyte/second (12gbyte/hour), that's from 1:30am to 4:30pm, and 1:30am to 1:30pm weekends, so totalling 97 hours a week, so in a week you could pull down well over a terabyte.

If you don't leave your PC running 24/7 then yeah it's a problem, or if you need to be seeding 24/7, likewise.
Standard User mr_mojo
(knowledge is power) Tue 26-Nov-13 21:48:16
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Well yes, but that means you have to wait until 1.30am to use this applications which for most means leaving them overnight. Which really defeats most of the point of fibre broadband if you're leaving files to download overnight, as most would be finished on normal broadband by the morning.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 27-Nov-13 18:26:36
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In reply to a post by mikehunt69:
In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Quite simply if you are interested in P2P and Newsgroups you do not sign up with EE. Their Traffic Management policy is there for all to see.


Well it's truthfully not diastrous

I am getting around 3.3mbyte/second (12gbyte/hour), that's from 1:30am to 4:30pm, and 1:30am to 1:30pm weekends, so totalling 97 hours a week, so in a week you could pull down well over a terabyte.

If you don't leave your PC running 24/7 then yeah it's a problem, or if you need to be seeding 24/7, likewise.
EE throttle p2p peer-to-peer BitTorrent file sharing users to free up their broadband network� wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)

http://e-gain.s3.amazonaws.com/external/content/Ts%2...

�to enable users like me to run programmes without congestion. smile grin

BBC iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b037w38s/Timesh...
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETCSccuPqbk
TVCatchup http://tvcatchup.com/
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 27-Nov-13 18:46:25
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One week earlier: http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/freeserve/t/4283579...

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 27-Nov-13 20:02:50
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One week earlier: http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/freeserve/t/4283579...
I did see your post and copied the EE traffic management information from it. wink
I thought I would add more information to help explain the benefit of EE throttling the network to P2P users, to prevent congestion of the network for the majority of EE broadband customers.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 28-Nov-13 00:23:12
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In reply to a post by E7er:
I thought I would add more information to help explain the benefit of EE throttling the network to P2P users, to prevent congestion of the network for the majority of EE broadband customers.

CAP/ASA do say though:

"�Unlimited� claims are likely to be acceptable provided that provider-imposed limitations that affect the speed or usage of the service are moderate only and are clearly explained in the marketing communication."

and

"Where they affect download speeds, for the downloading of large files on peer-to-peer protocols, for instance, providers should be able to demonstrate that the effect of a traffic management policy or mechanism is not beyond what consumers would reasonably expect."

http://www.cap.org.uk/Media-Centre/2012/~/media/File...

Whether they limitations "moderate" or "beyond what consumers would reasonably expect" is up to any concerned parties to thrash out with EE.

Oliver.
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