A good Take on MW3 from Now Gamer Website

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In reply to a post by time2die:

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Very positive. Back too the good old days!

That said I will still probably get spanked by the compensation code. I am waiting for interleaving controls to become available to my ISP (Aquiss) to see if that can help increase my ping a little. Don't hold out too much hope to be honest but we will see.

And tonight I'm off to a mates house, because on his connection I can actually win games! A little fix of Gun Game tonight me thinks.

I wonder if that will carry over to MW3 from black ops?
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Positive news would be that its the last CoD every and activision are [censored] off

Tell that to the masses come November 8th.... ..

Some love em and some hate em and thats the way it works.................

I would love to but im not a farmer/shepard so i cant speak sheep ;D

It amazes me that the COD series is so hated but still smashes sales records every realise .

But hang on , the hating of success is not something new and is in its self sheep behaviour

Its not exactly a video of multi player and im not ( to be honest ) impressed by what im seeing , graphics wise but im encouraged by what there saying about how there balancing the game and gun on gun is what i personally would like to see from the next instalment .
The kill streaks have got out of control and need dumbing down but gun balance will be the biggest issue , lets hope they get that right .

Personally my money is still on BF3 , im desperately trying to raise enough cash to build a PC gamer but with Christmas closing in very fast , its doubtful my PC gamer over the kids new smart phones , is going to win .

So for me at least MW3 for Xbox and BF3 for PS3 , especially as Dice have said DLC for BF3 will be a timed exclusive on PS3 . and maybe early next year i might be returning to the mouse and keyboard , once i have convinced the family a new family computer is what needed , that's not actually going to be a family computer . Hmm i got my work cut out .

I hate CoD on its lack of skill and its constant reskinning, its "popularity" is a side effect of the former and constantly works to its detriment so no sheep here, all wolf

I'm a team player , so no lone wolf , i do run in a pack and not in a flock but like to keep a open mind and be playing on the best platform for the game im playing .

COD seem best suited and supported over xbox so i understand when PC and PS3 gamers look at the COD titles with less than favourable experience .

Why would a developer change i winning formula ? it sells bucket loads and grosses loads of dollar and has a dedicated fan base that cough up , for over priced DLC .

Its successful because it works and no other reason , well apart from the unrelenting hype maybe .

Im down for BF3 and MW3 but the respective platforms i will be playing on will differ , i wont pin my colours to any one platform or game type , all have positives and negatives , its having a clear enough mind set to be able to pick what's best for you and your enjoyment and i still very much enjoy a run out in COD just as i have enjoyed playing BC2 Vietnam this week end .

I have identified that BF3 is going to support PC gamers more so than any large realise for quite a while and i do indeed want some of that action. Bigger maps more player and proper support , its just a shame PC gaming is so expensive and will always remain the preserve of a minority ( that i do want to be part of ) . But being a parent and the fact most of my flash cash has been sucked up by the ever increasing cost of living its going to be a while before i return to my original stomping ground , if at all .

Nicely put matey

Amen!
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Just because something is a "winning formula" doesnt mean its a good thing, much like phone hacking (which netted gossip which people bought in the millions), xfactor, etc.

It is true though, why would you change it if people are foolish enough to pay for it all? dedicated fan base however? Im not quite so sure about that, when games like Halo/resistance/gears of war/killzone/uncharted come out they give a sustained dent to the unique user count on CoD. Whilst there will still be a bulk of people still playing CoD i would bet these are people who paid for all the DLC and feel entitled to run it into the ground to get their monies worth. MW1 still has alot of players, MW2 still has a lot of players, BC2 still has a lot of players, etc. If all these games have a lot of unique players on top of consoles unique games what happened to the millions on top of millions who rushed out at launch to buy CoD? Simple they moved on or moved back and all of sudden CoD isn't THAT popular on a game per game basis. Just walk into GAME/gamestion/cex/etc row upon row of CoD. The issue is that acti already have the money and the next churned version is already in the oven baking. People are endlessly buying the next "big game" in the hope for difference, then it simply gets preowned. If people were smarter and not buying into hype they would not only save the cash from being short changed preowning they'd also spare themselves the disappointment.

Between MW1/heck even CoD2 in some cases and BO there is little improvement in textures and underlying mechanics, its the same engine patched up, and kicked out, the campaign gets shorter and shorter and all thats left is the gimmicks in multi which will ultimately annoy some, be loved by others. This is all before the infamous exploits come out, exploiting out of map, endless carepackage, etc. Most of which wont be patched whilst DLC gets slapped out every other month.

I don't need to band wagon to hop on to hate CoD, theres plenty there from people unhappy with the previous ones, ones who hate CoD, ones who hate acti, ones who hate FPS, ones who hate violence, ones who hate what CoD has done to gaming, ones who hate DLC, etc I dont need a band wagon, i have my own. Thats pretty much my reasoning for the majority is above, there other out lying elements but yeah, thats the core of it.

As for PC gaming, its understandable why some might not bother with it namely cost in comparison to a 360 it can be quite steep, I wouldnt say the PS3 because that is still quite steep in price for what you get IMHO, however i wouldnt say its as high as people think for <500 you can get a decent pc that will cruise a few years (and potentially beyond), personally i use my PC for more than just gaming, if you view a PC as purely a gaming machine then justifying any cost at all will be hard to do.

Black Ops has constantly been top of the online xbox charts since realise, in fact over 350000 gamers where playing it tonight on xbox ( this is not the case on PSN ) , i just checked , that's a fact . Things have been patched at a lightning rate on Xbox live , even before players where aware of exploits .

Black Ops sold 12 million copy's so it should come as no surprise that the trade in shelf's are bulked out with copy's of it as we draw closer to the November realise of MW3 .
Best selling console game of all time is , Wii Sports with 76 million ( puts things into perspective ).

It will be interesting to see what the sales figures are like for MW3 in November , you might have to eat your hat ... or then again i might have to eat my hat ... Gulp ..

As for a £500 gaming rig , it would never last me 2 years , as i do tend to play things to death and from experience i know i need my gaming rig over engineered to cope with the duty cycle i would be putting it through .
I have priced up a computer and its nearer to the £700 mark and that's not going silly but trying to choose bang for buck parts and i really want a SSD drive that will push it upto £800 , you really cant use a budget case or PSU and god help you if you skimp on your memory or cooling . ( will start a thread closer to the time for a little guidance )

Anyway i except you don't like the COD series and you are definitely not alone in feeling like that but it would be nice if you could except that some of us do enjoy playing it , and i know im also not alone in that either .

You make some fair points Falcon but the basic fact i'm afraid is that it is a winning formula regardless of what you think and thousands of others.

MW3 will sell more units than most game can only dream of so something must be right and we all know that,it might not have changed much but millions love it.

Take away the hacking and in game glitches of MW2 and you have a very enjoyable fast paced FPS,yes the kill streaks were stupid i agree and i hated the quick/scope and getting knifed from 20 feet away with people on speed.

Infinity Ward[from what is left] and Sledgehammer hopefully have balanced this from what i have read about it which makes for a better game.

Apart from the obvious you have pointed out which can apply to most games like Gears of War,Metal Gear Solid,Battlefield etc etc the only thing that MW needs is a updated engine as graphically its not on the same level as Battlefield but i bet more people turn to MW3 in the long run.

I still play MW1 to this day some 4 years later and most games i get i trade in within a month as they bore me to death.

Since i love a decent FPS then i'm a big fan of games like Battlefield and MW or Cod based games,Treyarch are the weaker chain as far as i am concerned and WAW and Black ops will for me be second best to Infinity Ward developed games.

We could but different points acroos regarding these games for years and years but at the end of the day you are the consumer and you will make your own choice

I'm not going to have to eat my hat

Even now if you go into a Supermarket or Blockbusters or a Game Shop its still basically full retail price but with a trade in value at Blockbusters of just £8.

Even second hand copies of Black ops cost £30 and i know from experience having once swapped the Xbox 360 version for the Playstation version after my mate said they had fixed the online issues [No they haven't]

How many other games can hold that sort of value even after a few months.

For every thousand that hate it a Million love it,and what really gets me is all these Cod Haters from around most gaming forums will more than likely be at the front of the Queue come November 8th and even at Midnight launches.

To make a formal proper opinion then those that dislike it have to own and play it before casting Judgement.

You can find flaws in every game that is released,but we all like different things so even if cod got Outstanding reviews across the board there will always be a Minority dishing the dirt regardless of how good the game is.

Lets face it Falcon my friend you are a obvious COD hater for various reasons,even saying that it has ruined the FPS experience for PC players,i bet if you listed a particular game you liked i and many others could rip it to shreds with negative remarks and say similar things that you have quoted about Cod games.

I don't have issues with you not liking what COD stands for but for me they have probably been the best nights i have had gaming and there are very few games i can say that about.

Would i care if Battlefield becomes the top FPS and beats MW3..............No because FPS fans will rejoice because now we have greater competition which can only be a good thing for us gamers.

MW3 will be the biggest game release this year...............Period and will sell a lot more than Battlefield even with its amazing graphics.

In reply to a post by time2die:

MW3 will be the biggest game release this year...............Period and will sell a lot more than Battlefield even with its amazing graphics.

That's a very sad statement indeed, but almost certainly true. Seems people buy it based on the name. Angry Birds shifts a lot too.

That's a very sad statement indeed, but almost certainly true. Seems people buy it based on the name.

No, they buy it 'cos they like it!

That's why it sustains it sales year on year.

It is true though, why would you change it if people are foolish enough to pay for it all? dedicated fan base however? Im not quite so sure about that, when games like Halo/resistance/gears of war/killzone/uncharted come out they give a sustained dent to the unique user count on CoD

You're right, they will. But kids aside, people play COD as much for their lifestyle as anything else. If you have a busy life, kids/work etc., then COD is very easy to pick up and play. And Activision know that. You get to join your mates in a party virtually straight away and the games are fast and furious. One hour then bedtime ready for tomorrow's daily grind.

10 years ago I loved sitting up until 2 in the morning playing Resident Evil, rolling out of bed for work 4 hours later! Nowadays I have too much responsibility to do that.

I am looking forward to BF3 more and more now after reading up on dedicated servers and browsers.
My new connection has completely spoiled my online experience....and I mean completely. Being able to choose the ping speed will be the key to changing that experience. And the fact that a deathmatch option has been included enhances that choice. EA aren't stupid. That is why they have included it. And if that enables me to be competitive then I will be a Battlefield convertee. If peoples experience are truly enhanced by dedi's then you may see a real migration towards Battlefield. And that in turn would force Activision to follow the same route. And if they did I would simply swap straight back to COD because frenetic is my thing.

But I will still always play COD co op modes because I love them. And the new version sounds like it will be the best yet. Pity though it is only 2 player and not four.

But for now, my despair at COD MP will give me time to really enjoy Resistance 3. And that, I think will be an EXCELLENT single player experience. Pity the MP lacks the simplicity of the first installment.
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Not a sad statement mate but a basic fact,personally i dont buy the game because its called COD i buy it because to me the game is everything i want in a FPS..

Brink is a FPS ...........Did i buy that..............No because it was rubbish just like last weeks Body Count.

Anyway like i said in previous posts i will be buying both Battlefield and MW3 and will hopefully enjoy both for many months to come,with that outlook then there can only be one winner..............Us Gamers

I couldn't open your last link mate, so I hope this is not duplicating it.

http://www.nowgamer.com/ps3/ps3-previews/1037687/cal...

A good detailed perks/killstreak review. Some interesting perks such as recon and stalker. They claim to have removed the reset on death streak system to aid those who want to play tactically. I think that is really an admission that the netcode is rubbish on P2P and are trying to stop some rage quitting. Either way it can only help with the frustration at times.

Now if they have only adjusted that compensation code? Wishful thinking I expect.
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No prob matey keep posting anything Battlefield ,MW3 related

the lag compensation is not only a problem on PS3 , i still get games where i cant kill anybody on Xbox but the actual game runs so much better over Xbox live than it does over PS3 .
Owning both consoles i can not express how much better Black Ops plays on a Xbox over a PS3 .

And i think the amount of people playing it on Xbox compared to how many play it on PS3 only sure up what im saying .
I know it should not be like this and im sure this wont be the last bad port to a PS3 from a Xbox ,
In fact i was bitterly disappointed to hear the PS3 version of Dead island suffered badly from artifacting ( bad port alert ) as i wanted to buy the PS3 version for the kids , as they love a zombie game ( not sure i should encourage but its not like there at primary school any more ).
Hopefully my eldest will let them use his Xbox as my xbox is off limits .

And totally agree about people needing a quick fix and the COD series offering that quick fix .

In reply to a post by FireFalcon:

I hate CoD on its lack of skill and its constant reskinning, its "popularity" is a side effect of the former and constantly works to its detriment so no sheep here, all wolf

That's why the kids love it.
Please keep it easy so that the kids keep playing it and leave BF3 for real players
No doubt MW3 will be full of cheats soon anyway

Yep seems the Playstation again seems to suffer from Multi Platform releases and i have the 360 version on order and i can not wait to slay a few hundread Zombies.

Never too early to train kids against zombie apocalypse, its the most popular form of apocalypse thats likely to happen (after mankind nuking itself, but that will probably spawn zombies so win win assuming you live past the first wave ) I mean how many movies and trailers show that infect kid usually screws the whole family, that dawn of the dead remake, dead island trailer, etc

A good take on COD black ops from this guy. I lmao but to be truthful, 99% of the time in 99% of games this is how it plays for me. Frustrating ain't the word. Funny though.

http://fieldoperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/call-...
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Guy cracks me up but lets be honest he makes some dam fine points,small game company that made Homefront with not a 100th of the COD players and the millions it makes have Dedicated servers................Go figure ?

How can this be and why does a game this big with so much potential use P2P.

Businessmen taking over gaming I suspect.

And dedicated servers aren't the only answer. Getting rid of matchmaking is the other. Until server browsers let you choose the connection speed closest to your own, things will never be brilliant.

The only downside to that is party play being compromised by different connection speeds of the people on your friends list.
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At least Battlefield is going to have a game server browser in the console versions so that's progress.

Even basic things in COD would help,like letting you pick your map of choice instead of joining a particular game and map only to find it changes as soon as the lobby loads...............

One good thing they have done is to extend the private match game modes.

Gun game is going to be a real blast if you just play with a few buddies. One of my fav modes.
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Never played the Gun Game mode,dont ask me why ?

Black ops is a thing of the past for me now as i look forward to October /November............You got to invest in a 360 mate and we can play some survival and Spec Ops.............Ive done with Cod Games on Playstation and as previous people have mentioned and myself on numerous occasions they run better on a 360 and you get the downloadable content first.

Funny enough this review may make me buy this one, I for one quite liked BO, but did not buy the previous one trill I got it for £3 and still think I was ripped off.

If the cash flow hits the right level I might just do that. Doubtful this side of Christmas though.
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