I remember reading something pre-BC2 release saying that they didn't have a map editor themselves! Would be nice to have one but I am not holding my breath tbh. I think the days of map editors for FPS games is nearing an end...

Nope, both were bad in terms of value for money, never seen an official mod die soo quickly. Only one new weapon, rehashing weapon stats and giving them a new model isn't the same as a new gun to me (when they added the famas to CS, now that was a new gun, had 2 fire modes which none of the other rifles had). The vehicles are again rehashed.

The maps themselves are soo dire because there isn't any 3rd party competition (hint hint).

I never paid for Promod for Cod4 since it was a 3rd party free mod, so you can slag off Activision all you like, but IW were true to keeping up the PC crowd (CoD1+2+MW) till MW2.

Dice have been at this for while, messing around their Customers in 2142. So no, I doubt that there will be any patches or addons for BC2 now.

It's all about the Benjamins. They do less, and charge a premium price for it seems to work far too well for them.

Just say no. At least until they finish it, or is no immediate updates required too much to ask?

Don't.

You can preorder BF3 for £35 from pretty much every game retailer now, BC2 you could preorder for £25, the prices are def shifting up.

I think ill hold fire and wait on steam's price since i avoided paying £35 for BC2 on steam original, this time it seems it might meet it like for like so steam will inevitably win.

Sounds reasonable enough action to be considered for targetting.

It died? I haven't played it for a few days now but there still seems to be a lot of interest in it. I have said from the start that I have my doubts about how long 5 maps can hold interest but I am not bored of it yet. Out of the 5 maps there is only 1 that I think is really poorly designed, but you can look at it as being a real test in teamwork to break out

In most games the difference between some guns is marginal. You only have to look at black ops enfield/galil famase/aug/commando to see this. TBH the weapon variation in CS is some of the best I have seen in terms of how each gun handles.

The point I was making regarding the mods is that it is becoming a thing of the past - BF2 had plenty of mods for it (project reality etc) but they are all stopping doing it now. I might not have anything good to say about activision but I am not deliberately trying to slag them off - but comparison between the 2 biggest FPS franchises is not unreasonable...

Can't comment on BF2142 because I played the demo and that was more than enough for me and I stopped with BF2!

Nah, not tempting me at all yet. I may get it on Steam at some point, but, there is no rush what-so-ever.

May even wait for a tasty review before contemplating anything (hint, hint).

DICE has talked about mod tools for the game though it wont come till after the release, the main problem with any tools is that the engine is very complicated why it has been kept in house.

Dunno if this part of the Battlefield site was live when you posted this or not. But anyway, some tasty videos of both Battlefield 3 and BBC2 Viet-*expletive*-nam!

Clicky and probably you'll need to go through the silly age and region check thing. Address is http://www.battlefieldbadcompany2.com/videos just in case.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/hit-the-battlefiel...

New bf3 trailer, looks like singleplayer campaign though, single player in a proper battlefield game? what are consoles driving us to