I agree in some parts but how is someone like me that is not good in a heli supposed to learn??
Also it gets really boring when some ace heli pilot just keeps killing everyone, IMO helis should be easier to shoot down and not be so powerful

You practice flying by yourself on an empty server.

Like vietnam and the hueys?

Shooting helis down in BC2 was easy, it was just about plotting where the heli is going and shooting a rocket there based on its distance ;D or using a tracer dart.

In reply to a post by Zadeks:

You practice flying by yourself on an empty server.

Can't do that on PS3 it just sticks you in a game with other players
Only way is to take a heli when you see it, I'm getting better, I'm now carp at flying instead of completely carp, but anyone on the ground is still safe. Think I have about 4 kills. Everyone has to start somewhere and it's great when you get a chance to fly even if it's not for long.

Last night there were two really good rank 50 pilots flying around the ship map, no way to shoot them down as they destroyed the anti-aircraft guns within sec's of someone sitting on them, not that the anti-aircraft guns are much good, couldn't capture any flags and were just being constantly base raped, it got so bad everyone left.
I hope in BF3 the balance is restored.

Well I wouldn't be too hopeful about that mate. Rape from the air has been a central feature of the Battlefield series from day one, or at least until the time people had sufficiently mastered the art of flying and pwng.

It really does ruin a game to have some very skilled players obliterating everything land based that's moving. The game balance is totally out of whack in that regard. Just recall the way you basically have a radar showing you where all the vehicles are when switched to bombs in the planes on BF2.

DICE/EA didn't do a damn thing to change the balance - there was a distinct lack of ground based air defense. I mean, even the anti aircraft gun stations were highlighted for the planes. As I myself got better at flying, it didn't take too much effort to remember exactly where those AA guns were and to just drop your payload on them every time they spawned. Shooting at helos was a complete joke too as the flare recycle time was far too quick so they could fly around unmolested save for other jets and their machine gun turrets (heat sinking missiles were useless).

I'm ranting on as I understand the frustrations only too well. Actually I hated the people who whored the planes/helos; there should be a system in place where they cannot take the planes etc if they had only just used them. The system was totally set up in their favour in BF2. Die and spawn and there was a nice new plane ready for ya and only you knew it was imminently due as you'd crashed it previously. It really enforced the maxim greed and selfish stupidity is good. It'd be nice if DICE got the balance right this time but I expect it'll be a cold day in hell before they give that any proper consideration - it's all about the cash and catching up COD.

In reply to a post by ilh:

I don't disagree that many of the features in BF2 have been there from the get go, but I had thought we had seen the last of 64 player games. As I said above, I am an Infantry only man anyway really - it might not solve camping but it does stop people waiting for vehicles

Same here. The CoD 9 v 9 becomes dull quickly, especially when the games are released with so few maps. 32 v 32 is just the right level of frenetic action heh.

Well I wouldn't be too hopeful about that mate. Rape from the air has been a central feature of the Battlefield series from day one, or at least until the time people had sufficiently mastered the art of flying and pwng.

It really does ruin a game to have some very skilled players obliterating everything land based that's moving. The game balance is totally out of whack in that regard. Just recall the way you basically have a radar showing you where all the vehicles are when switched to bombs in the planes on BF2.

This to me will be the decider between BF3 and Homefront.

BF3 looks fantastic and has the obvious pedigree. But I want away from COD and onto something with vehicles. BF3 could be the best looking game ever produced if it wants. But I would take Homefront all day long if it delivers the MP gameplay in a properly balanced way. It's not all about the visuals? Is it?

God I hope BF3 gets that sorted!

Edited by mrnelster (Sun 06-Mar-11 10:48:59)

Agreed. Gameplay over graphics anyday!

If any large scale vehicle based online game can bet the balance right, that's definitely the crucial decider.

Still, those graphics from the trailers T2D and others have provided, do look tasty.

If any large scale vehicle based online game can bet the balance right, that's definitely the crucial decider.

Still, those graphics from the trailers T2D and others have provided, do look tasty.

Wouldn't it be great if they get both right?

In the meantime it's home front I guess.

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

Still, those graphics from the trailers T2D and others have provided, do look tasty.

Wouldn't it be great if they get both right?

In the meantime it's home front I guess.

Both graphics and evenly balanced gameplay? What kind of fairytale world would that be? Next, we're going to be asking for sensible, selfless, mature players all working as part of a team.

But, hey. That would be fantastic, yes. Just imagine if we could have it all? If EA ever released a working Battlefield game on day one and delivered the goods to us, they'd probably release a patch just to fudge it all up again.

Shall look into Homefront a bit more as I suspect some sacrifices are going to be needed. This is the real world afterall, and we all need something to tide us over till later in the year when our hopes are sure to be met with the grim reality of foolish expectation.