After reading a few reviews of the game, its a MW2 map pack with more game modes added on to a arcade shooter.

FOV is extremely poor but then its designed for consoles and not pc showing the lack of pc support but thats always been the case after COD4. Console hardware is the cause of this, IF couldnt even add in the option to increase fov for pc users.

Ranking is all done via p2p, another console invention which is what made mw2 so [censored].

Online servers via the server brower that are all unranked, so you have to go through the nightmare that is p2p to rank up.

Killstreaks that now have 3 paths to get them that then let you run away with the game, jugernauht suit that makes you pretty much invincible.

Graphics that look extremly poor but then thats due to the 7 year old Hardware of the consoles, how can they can be considered to be gd- graphic technology has moved on.

In the end MW3 is just a repackaged game with a few shiny mods to make people think its the best game ever, just what console players want from a game with acitvison laughing all the way to the bank as they have conned players to buy the same game again.

I take your point mate and you make a few interesting comments but it is what it is and its enjoyable all the same.

People are not conned as most gamers would have watched the video previews and read all the reviews over the past 6 months and basically we all new what we were getting just hoping for some major improvements that did not really turn up.

I doubt very much we will see this MW engine again and there are reports now doing the rounds that next years Cod developed by my least favourite guys [Treyarch] will be on the new Xbox 720 or whatever they end up calling it.

Read a report that this console will ship by year end 2012 and be announced and shown at next years E3

Next generation consoles are screaming to be released and with the new Nintendo next year there is no way Microsoft and Sony are going to play catch up.

jugernauht suit that makes you pretty much invincible.

I bumped in to someone earlier fully tooled up and managed to shoot them with the carbine so they aint that invincible.

I only play multiplayer and use a PC. All other modes are for people doing it wrong

The game itself is clearly built entirely on MW2. The files, configs and general look are pretty much the same. If you looked at a folder on a PC containing MW2 and one containing MW3 they're almost indentical. They've changed the menus around, beefed up the sound (guns sound a lot more powerful and loud) and I think they've made the graphics ever so slightly better but for all intents and purposes it's the same sort of stuff.

The developers have clearly focussed their efforts on the new maps, game modes, weapons and pointstreaks. In short they've spent their time on stuff you use rather than stuff you look at. The results are pretty spectacular. I've spent quite a few hours playing it online now and I've been laughing my ass off at times at how good it is.

Kill Confirm mode is just mega fun. Basically you can't sit still for very long or you'll get shot in the back. It's fast and frantic. If you do manage to find a little spot to camp in, you're likely to get some kills from guys running around clueless. Do you rush for the tags or sit and wait? It's a dilemma sometimes. But it's a simple tactical depth that the old game lacked.

Team Defender is more of the same but in a slightly different way. Just fast and frantic but more focussed. Only played it a few times but the flag tends to end up in one part of the map and both sides just swarm after it.

Having dedicated servers on the PC and making them unranked, frankly, is a master stroke. Whoever thought it up needs a medal. Since the news came out that it was unranked the abuse has been relentless. People have said they'll boycott the game over it but once you play it makes perfect sense. If you like ranking up like before do it through matchmaking. It's not perfect but the player numbers are high so you usually get a good game and decent enough ping. But for dedicated servers you can create 5 of your own classes, straight away, using any weapon or unlock. No waiting around to Level 80 to get the RPG - just enable it and jump into a server and use it. I think if they'd made server play ranked it would end up like MW1, which is a great game, but full of "pros" who have everything and destroy more casual players with ease. In MW3 allowing everyone access to every item/weapon works a treat.

At the end of the day it gives people a choice too. You can choose to unlock stuff but when you get tired out it's nice to just pick a game mode, map and server and go and blast around using any pointstreak, perk or item.

The pointstreak system is really well thought out. Having 3 different classes of pointstreak each with benefits and advantages really helps. If you're a bit of a camper or just really good at aiming you can still benefit from the older style "assault" streaks with helicopters and AC130's etc. If you're more of a rush type player who tries to complete more objectives but therefore dies a bit more trying to do them, the support streaks, which don't reset when you die, are great.

The weapons seem varied and some do appear to be overpowered. L118 sniper appears to not even need to be aimed (been killed quite a few times by people using it who haven't even scoped) and the UMP is a beast. I understand this happens in all games and usually after some extended play and feedback, patches help balance it a bit more.

The maps all appear to be a bit more complex than in MW2. They seem a little more "maze-y" with more paths. Quite a number are a lot more vertical with underground sections, buildings, windows and staircases galore which mean you do end up getting attacked from all sorts of directions. I suspect that, in time, I'll learn the maps better and get a feel for them which will make them feel "simpler".

The new items like bouncing bettys, turrets, remote drones and stuff like a portable scrambler or portable radar really add extra elements and tactics to the game. In MW2 you were more limited to grenades and some explosives but there are definitely more options now.

Hit detection feels better and when playing on a server it's definitely sharper. Literally "BOOM YOU'RE DEAD".

Overall the changes made make this game everything MW2 should have been. Most of it's flaws and failings seem to have been intelligently addressed and their are plenty of fun new modes (Kill Confirm and GunGame for example) which are great laughs. The game is definitely more tactical and less focussed on camping to get your killstreak built up.

I do wish they'd made the graphics a touch better. It's not that it looks bad or anything. It just doesn't feel like much time was spent, or available, on doing much beyond a few new models and small graphical elements. The plus is that it should run as smooth as silk on anyone with a fairly decent computer.

I only play multiplayer and use a PC. All other modes are for people doing it wrong

That's all I want to play, but until someone tells me how to fix the host lag problem it's not even worth trying. It's so bad I have to quit and that ruins everybody elses game.

The private matches have everything unlocked from the start aswell and I agree it is a stroke of genius. Gun Game was the best part of BLOPS and we've already had a right laugh with it on some of the new maps.

As you said, loads of paths makes it extremely high octane and learning them will be far more difficult than the previous games.
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Haven't had much lag myself. Occasionally it'll dump you into some [censored] host but only rarely. You should make sure you change the settings in config_mp.cfg so you only connect to nearby hosts.

Go to your steam folder > steamapps > common > cod mw3 > players2 and open config_mp.cfg.

CTRL+F to find "seta cl_maxPing" and change it to something like 200.
Then find "seta cg_ScoresPing_MaxBars" and change it to 10
Then find "seta cg_ScoresPing_Interval" and change it to 20. Then each ping bar will be worth 20ms. If you have 8/10 bars your ping is like 40. If you only see 1 bar you know it sucks.

Servers are superb unless you fail to select one in the same hemisphere - in which case you're a rookie

Edited by orly (Wed 09-Nov-11 19:37:04)

I'm stuck with matchmaking on a PS3.........please don't mock me for my sins.

With a 7ms ping everybody's a lagger! I'm hoping interleaving will become available and increase my ping slightly. Won't hold my breath though.
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And there are lots of reports of server issues and error codes preventing people from getting online this afternoon / evening.
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I am very disappointed with MW3 multi player , as you have said there are some excellent new game modes but the thing that gets me the most is there are loads of maps at realise of MW3 but they all play exactly the same , there is no variation , there is no need to change tactics . Play the same Gun the same class , the same everything and charge round like a headless chicken spraying anything that moves with your P90 .

i play console and at this moment in time i have genuinely enjoyed the challenge of BF3 over the repetitiveness of MW3 .

Also I'm a older gamer and cant be having , no other tactic other than , fastest reaction time . Which even if you do have the fastest reaction time , MW3 P2P game hosting needs to change , I'm dedicated servers all the way now .

I need to be challenged , I need to work out the best way of playing a map . MW3 its just pure Run & Gun , that's the one and only tactic you need , all maps , all game types .
Now I know meny are loving the feel of the guns and the fluid fast movement , as i am also , its just the repetitiveness of everything .

Got 30 days to get to first prestige and if my opinion has not changed i will be sending the game back . Never thought i would ever be considering , doing that with a COD title !

Edited by deleted (Fri 11-Nov-11 18:56:58)

Personally i love it and its exactly what i expected and Kill Confirmed is excellent addition,trading in the game would never be a option for me until something way better comes along and i doubt it will be Treyarch Cod game next year.

The maps i think are very good but still to many camping spots for my liking but the Kill Confirmed stops this a little.

Sorry to hear that you are not enjoying it but you can not please everyone all of the time, why don't you try playing demolition as its far more tactical and not so fast as Kill Confirmed and a few other modes.