Microsoft need to focus there presentation on Games ,Games,And more Games because the last couple of years they have had little in the way of exclusives and seem to think we all wont to play motion controlled Kinnect type games that have little to no appeal to hardened Gamers.

Personally just because they where new and different i bought into the Kinnect and Sony move and come some 2/3 weeks later they where disconnected dumped into my Gaming boxes upstairs never to see the light of day again.

Both are poor in choice of games which normally are some dance orientated Kinnect game or similar on the Move and both have calibration problems with far to much lag to even consider playing a FPS on them,Besides i don't want to sit in a room with floodlights on so that the Kinnect or Move can recognise my profile.

Both Microsoft and Sony jumped on the motion controlled gaming scene because of the success of the Nintendo wii,Now Thats become stale and boring and its not bought by your everyday gamer but more of the casual non hardcore gamer that probably buys 1 game a year and thats if its in a sale.

Someone like Swanny

My local Blockbusters has sold 2 Nintendo Wii U since last November and they did not have a single pre/order for a system,now if thats not failure and lack of interest then Nintendo need to take a long hard look at what made them one of the greatest gaming companies of all time and go back to basics or producing playing cards where Nintendo started before they even went into Gaming.

I know you and me both are not interested in the Nintendo Wii U but they must of known that both there competitors would soon be releasing next generation systems ,so why release something that obviously nowbody wants with the power of what we have already and are about to get rid of.

There is a Rumour going around the internet this morning [and its just a rumour] that Sony may have played into Microsofts hands with there reveal in Feb,some gaming sites are quoting that the next xbox will have 12gig of DDR5 ram which is 4 more than Sony.

Sony states in there reveal though that specification is subject to change so if that does happen [Rumour] then expect Sony to upgrade there Ram as i can not see Sony letting Microsoft have a machine which is faster by some consideration.

Edited by time2die (Mon 20-May-13 13:32:55)

I really hope the two of them aren't going to get into some childish numbers contest as far as the specifications go, especially with something as inconsequential as the difference, for console gaming, between 8GB and 12GB of RAM.

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

I really hope the two of them aren't going to get into some childish numbers contest as far as the specifications go, especially with something as inconsequential as the difference, for console gaming, between 8GB and 12GB of RAM.

Not just any old RAM though... DDR5 ram!

Yeah, I know. It's pathetic isn't it?

In reply to a post by time2die:

Microsoft need to focus there presentation on Games ,Games,And more Games because the last couple of years they have had little in the way of exclusives and seem to think we all wont to play motion controlled Kinnect type games that have little to no appeal to hardened Gamers.

Personally just because they where new and different i bought into the Kinnect and Sony move and come some 2/3 weeks later they where disconnected dumped into my Gaming boxes upstairs never to see the light of day again.

Both are poor in choice of games which normally are some dance orientated Kinnect game or similar on the Move and both have calibration problems with far to much lag to even consider playing a FPS on them,Besides i don't want to sit in a room with floodlights on so that the Kinnect or Move can recognise my profile.

Both Microsoft and Sony jumped on the motion controlled gaming scene because of the success of the Nintendo wii,Now Thats become stale and boring and its not bought by your everyday gamer but more of the casual non hardcore gamer that probably buys 1 game a year and thats if its in a sale.

Someone like Swanny

My local Blockbusters has sold 2 Nintendo Wii U since last November and they did not have a single pre/order for a system,now if thats not failure and lack of interest then Nintendo need to take a long hard look at what made them one of the greatest gaming companies of all time and go back to basics or producing playing cards where Nintendo started before they even went into Gaming.

I know you and me both are not interested in the Nintendo Wii U but they must of known that both there competitors would soon be releasing next generation systems ,so why release something that obviously nowbody wants with the power of what we have already and are about to get rid of.

There is a Rumour going around the internet this morning [and its just a rumour] that Sony may have played into Microsofts hands with there reveal in Feb,some gaming sites are quoting that the next xbox will have 12gig of DDR5 ram which is 4 more than Sony.

Sony states in there reveal though that specification is subject to change so if that does happen [Rumour] then expect Sony to upgrade there Ram as i can not see Sony letting Microsoft have a machine which is faster by some consideration.

I have to agree the kinect was pre ordered and has been on the shelf from the first day I got it. And yes games, games and more games is the only way forward.

lests hope there is a battle looming and then the consoles will just get beteer and better as Sony and Microsoft try to outdo themselves.

I don't disagree with you either Old Timey except for the inclusion of Lovefilm/Netlix etc apps and the like but then it all depends on how good they are and how cluttered or not they make the Xbox dashboard etc. We don't all have Sky subscriptions and the internet's the way forward as far as content delivery is concerned don'tcha know.

If there are features you'd rather not have but they're there anyway, then you don't need to use them. Maybe some of them will come into their own one day, like Kinnect and motion sensing etc. The next gen is going to be significantly improved but yeah, it depends how devs implement the features but for FPS games, having head tracking could be great if it allowed you to look around in game to see your surroundings without changing movement direction.

The most significant aspects of the new consoles have already been revealed. Their architecture is... basically the same as a PC. Ta da! Yeah, I guess PCs won in the end then! They just want you to pay loads more for games for the privilege of having a console with a handheld control pad: they should call it couch tax.

As for the 'always online' requirement? As far as single player gaming was concerned, that issue has already been dealt with, no? I thought MS had made a statement that it wasn't necessary (I think they did a U-turn on that). The really important info as far as I'm concerned is copy protection and sale of secondhand games. The games industry is really going to do themselves significant damage if they expect people to buy everything new with no trade in value when the prices might be as much as £60 a pop for a new game.

Games have big budgets like the movie industry and there can be huge gambles made when funding flops; that risk will only grow if you're basically creating a huge uncertainty for potential buyers who're going to be so much more wary about buying something that might turn out to be a turkey. More power to games review sites but will they abuse it? Yeah, probably. If people can't trust games reviews then what? More anger and greater cynicism and less sales. This could further fuel a growing and self perpetuating negative feedback system where essentially all lose out.

Hopefully, the games industry will see sense and greed and profit won't be the prime motives. Like a good artisan, crafting a good game will lead to it doing well and making the money. Quality speaks for itself. But we've been here before, it's the perrennial question: the cost of creating a good game and the risks and rewards, which is perhaps why so many devs are switching their focus to mobile gaming and freemium models. But with Sony switching to what is an easier platform to develop for, hopefully we'll enter a new golden age of gaming. I think there's a lot of optimism around at the moment, the future of gaming is potentially looking pretty good so let's hope Microsoft don't do anything too stupid.

Like Kinnect 2 built in

Nice read Spook,i finished it after about 40 minutes

Nah Nah Nah Na Nah

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In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

I really hope the two of them aren't going to get into some childish numbers contest as far as the specifications go, especially with something as inconsequential as the difference, for console gaming, between 8GB and 12GB of RAM.

Not just any old RAM though... DDR5 ram!

Yeah, I know. It's pathetic isn't it?

What the lack of games for your PC

I would like to see Microsoft concentrate more on Games For Windows...

I would like to see Microsoft concentrating on releasing a console that don't break 6 months later