Paper Woses ,Paper Woses..............

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

To me graphics got good enough in the 360/ps3 gen, they are good enough to see what you doing and have nice backgrounds etc.

I agree, it's only a game not real life. Gameplay is more important.

Only qualified Gamers need to reply to this thread........Swanny im afraid your out

Pah even if I stopped now I'd be more of a gamer than you'll ever be

Fair enough if that's what you like.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

In the next gen many jap developers are moving to cheaper platforms as visuals sucks up too much budget and development time take budget and dev time away from gameplay and making it too hard to make a profit. This I am not happy with as gaming on mobile devices is horrific, this is why I see the market shrinking, in years to come aaa games will be limited to a few genres.

This makes no sense. Sony made a big deal about supporting indie developers at Gamescom - there are 34 known titles for PS4 (many on Vita also). Seems to me these smaller developers are thriving.

count the number of jrpgs on ps2 and compare to ps3, its a sharp decline.

none yet announced for the ps4.

square-enix the main jrpg AAA developer are reviewing their entire company and have already said their focus is shifting to mobile.

konami almost went bankrupt but vesperia ps3/jap version DLC costume sales saved them. Their games use anim.cartoon type graphics, they dont need ps4 hardware. Although they still been making ps3 games they have also commented in public they need to reduce cost of their games and are likely to shift to other platforms. Already most of their games are on portables.

tri-ace last game was star ocean 4, no more star ocean games, star ocean 4 on the 360 was subsidised by microsoft and that game was launched very early in the 360/ps3 era. tri-ace seem all but dead, although they helped square enix with ff13-2.

ff13-3 is looking more like an action game with rpg elements than a true jrpg, so square enix is also westernising their games, likely due to the shift of focus to graphics and their pampering to western players. ff13-3 is a ps3 not ps4 game.

square are making ff15 for the ps4. although its in dev not going to be launched soon.

I agree with you there is lots of indie dev activity but how much of the games are good, some are good, but also is a lot of trash, some commentators have compared the current situation to the 1980s game crash where quality games were reduced (current shrinkage of AAA titles to few genres) and a influx of low quality games. Also most of the indie activity is on the pc with steam and mobiles not the consoles. Molyneux seems to have abandoned consoles it doesnt fit with his vision, his new game is debuting on steam during septemeber (beta) and will also be on android/ios. His development costs as a result are a fraction of what they would be on console.

Now microsoft do own a jrpg company, that made lost oddysey and blue dragon, both good games, lost oddysey in fact was excellent and in my opinion a tie in with vesperia for best jrpg of current gen lost oddysey 2 was originally planned also but since microsoft failed to crack the jap market I think they have abandoned any new jrpg's they will fund. I assume they think its not worth making jrpgs for western gamers.

I have got my phone able to output to a monitor with a mhl cable, an app to keep the audio out the phone whilst using the cable (as otherwise sound doesnt work since monitor got no speakers) and I also brought a moga gamepad for my phone, some custom univeral driver someone made supposedbly makes this gamepad able to work on any android game, which if it does mobile gaming becomes viable as then have a gamepad and big screen, but so far I havent been able to get the android version of ff3 to work with this gamepad.

I think within 3 years mobile smartphones will be capable of doing hdmi output trivially (already are in fact) and have better support for prepherials, at this point any genre that doesnt need hd resolution graphics will likely be developed for mobile devices instead as its way cheaper and 100s of millions of people own smartphones. Not only is it cheaper to develop but also less licensing issues and easier to sell with google play etc. Thats why can get games for £1 on there vs £5-10 (budget price) on a console.

This is what my prediction is really. I think the ps4/xbox1 are the last consoles that will exist, after that consoles wont be relevant. It will be cloud and mobile gaming, pc's will keep their place but will be a small market.

I don't know anything about jrpg's and do not see myself wanting to play one so I will have to take your word on that.

Seems like the logical thing to move to streaming/cloud based services the big problem though is the broadband infrastructure, developed countries may have superfast connections available everywhere by say 2020 but what about the rest of the world?

Im thinking he means Japanese roll playing games like the Boring Final Fantasy games when you walk along the map then an enforced battle happens after 30 seconds,you then walk a little more and another enforced battle commences 30 seconds later and so on and so on.

Japanese developers used to be the bees knees now its the western developers that are far superior with little in the way of any quality coming from the east.

The only game i can think of that can possibly compete with the likes of Rockstar,Naughty Dog and UbiSoft is the game The Last Guardian that we have been waiting years for.

sony will be testing the market when they introduce the BC cloud service on the ps4, this cloud service wil also work on the vita and other devices they said as well.

The advantages of cloud is it means never needing to sell consoles for it and of course its a lower entry cost to consumers as they dont need to buy a console. The hardware that processes the data is in the cloud and the end user only needs a device that can access the cloud service. Companies like sony dont like to keep rolling out new consoles it costs them money. Plus when hardware gets outdated it requires a new console whilst thats not a problem on cloud services. So personally i think its inevitable, its just a question of when, for people with lacking broadband connections it will become a point where they will be acceptable collateral damage. Not yet, but at some time which I think will be at the end of this generation.

Microsoft also have plans for this, they have been touting as having games doing some processing in the cloud so is not all onboard offline processing.

I could also say boring call of duty where you walk in circles shooting a gun.

everyone has their own taste.

there is less AAA games now as I already said to you the jap developers are abandoning these consoles due to cost of developing visuals. Dispite this eastern developed rpg's have easily outdone western ones this generation. Gameplay beats graphics every time.