Saints Row,Gta they have never really mastered the art of car control or vehicle control for that matter,but GTA has far much more scope and appeal than most of these similar rip offs on the market.

GTA will look crisp,sharp and have some nice graphics where saints row looks like a Playstation 1 game,yeah i know its not all about graphics but it sure helps to get you more immersed in the world when they are half decent.

The best sandbox/open world game I have played this gen is Sleeping Dogs, I just loved that game. The Hong Kong setting was so refreshing, story really good and the combat very satisfying once you mastered it. I know it's a newer game but I enjoyed it much more than GTA 4.

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GTA will look crisp,sharp and have some nice graphics where saints row looks like a Playstation 1 game,yeah i know its not all about graphics but it sure helps to get you more immersed in the world when they are half decent.

Sure does bra

Me personally could not get to grips with it and found the combat totally confusing and really gave up on the game within days......What a surprise I here you cry

Yeah I can understand that, the combat takes a while to get used to but once you do it is really very good. It does not help that there are some difficult missions quite early in the game. great game would like to see a sequel on next gen.

Sure it was a freebie on playstation plus earlier in the year and now its gone.

Yeah, I missed the chance to download it by one day.

That's a shame its definitely worth picking up.

So only a few days until GTA is out. I look forward to your thread 'GTA 5... 6 hours in... No spoilers'. Only then will I decide if I will be buying it

Get away with you,don't tell me you are not going to pick up possibly the best game of the year if not this generation.

Its going to be massive mate regardless of what i have to say about it,I'm not overly keen on open ended sandbox game but i know a class game when i see one and this will be massive and tide me over nicely until P4.

Saying that Red Dead Redemption was a sandbox game with a massive world to explore and that was one of my all time favourite games and i could not get enough of it.

FPS is my favourite thats why I'm so looking forward to Killzone Shadowfall and also Infamous Second Son next year as sadly this title has slipped past Original launch game.

Also Watchdogs looks like something special along with that Game Swanny keeps raving on about..........Whats it called now............Something Field me thinks.