I may look to get a PS4 once its out, my only problem is will i play on it enough to justify the outlay and the higher cost of games.

Have always had a playstation, got a ps3 after a few months but sold my half to my brother as i did not play it enough, friends have fifa cod etc but im not sure its enough of a reason to pay for a new console.

they are both overpriced, the ps3 of course was also overpriced at launch. Generally buying a console at launch is a bad idea financially, its the most likely times bugs will exist, its the most expensive time to buy one and it will have a limited games library. There is also no guaruantuee it will be a success look at the wii-u. I got my 360 3-4 years after launch, is a falcon, hasnt died on me. So I also havent had to repurchase one.

Financially comparing a pc to a console and value for money, pc's are a winner, most console gamers who dont have pc's have a misty view of pc costs. eg. buying a hdd for a pc isnt super inflated like it is for a xbox. Components can be upgraded over time instead of waiting for a next gen console at a inflated price which then doesnt also have BC so means ditching your old games or having 2 consoles lieing around. The only reason I own consoles is nothing to do with hardware but to do with exclusive games, (new) jrpg's are pretty much none existant on the pc, if all the games I wanted existed for the pc I wouldnt own a console pure and simple. Plus add the fact multiplayer gaming, netflix, heck even web browsing doesnt command an extra monthly sub on a pc.
Of course the pc is great for old jrpg's I can play old pc versions and old console versions (via an emulator). Believe it or not ps2 games run better on my pc than my ps3 (with its native BC).

I own a pc for work and general internet use, the amount I have spent on the parts of it that enhance games is easily under £349. Also all the talk next gen consoles cant even handle 1080p, the launch games having to use lower resolutions and be upscaled, the hardware inside those things isnt that good. PC's have been able to handle 1080p for half a decade.

Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 19-Sep-13 18:01:28)

£350 for a gaming machine which will last at least 7 years is great value, I don't know how you could consider that over priced. Sony can't be making much if any profit on the hardware. One of the big benefits of console gaming is the games are made for the exact hardware you have, there's no need for upgrades and also developers can highly optimize the games. Just look what they have achieved with some of the recent games such as TLOU or GTA 5.

I am in no way against PC gaming, I was a PC gamer for years before and have built my last 3 rigs. Been quite a few years since my last build but if you were to build a budget gaming system from scratch its bound to be around the £400 mark not including monitor.

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£350 for a gaming machine which will last at least 7 years is great value,

I wonder what the average life span of a PS4 will be??

That doesn't factor in any hardware failures. Hopefully they will be reliable though =/

There are suggestion that Sony won't this to last 10 years,some are saying that this will be the last consoles we see,not sure what they actually mean by that to be honest.

Anyway £350 for a Playstation 4 is fantastic value,and there are plenty of decent games at launch to to keep me well ocupied.

So I don't get the where's the software at launch bit one little bit,Battlefield 4, Watchdogs,Killzone Shadowfall,Cod Ghosts ,Assasins Creed to name but a few,free games like Drive Club and the new House Marque game Resigun,then next year we have some massive games like Infamous second son and plenty of more Sony Exclusives.

I'm decided. The console, extra controller and camera package is the one for me. Just waiting for it to officially arrive as an option on shopto.net so I can swap my pre-order bundle.Then I can play Planetside 2, DriveClub and Resogun for a couple of weeks before deciding what game to actually buy to tide me over for Christmas, and the kids get to muck around with the Adipose on the camera.

I really can't choose between Watchdogs and KZ:SF

is it better value than one that costs £200 of the same cpu/gpu/ram spec and probably also with larger hdd and slimmer design?

Details about Sony's digital upgrade scheme have been announced:

http://us.playstation.com/digitalupgrade/

Only four games supported so far: Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Watch Dogs and Battlefield 4.

Boo. Looks like GTA V isn't on the list.

And what machine is that then ?