Yeah, I kinda gotta agree with that. Imagine if every day one purchase went on eBay? Must be a substantial number bought solely for the purpose of profiteering.

Poster: SPOOKish
Subject: Re: Playstation 4 or Xbox One Your views..?
Yeah, I kinda gotta agree with that. Imagine if every day one purchase went on eBay? Must be a substantial number bought solely for the purpose of profiteering.

Unless its a Xbox One your trying to sell on Ebay and you actually have to pay them for taking it of your hands.......Sorry Bert could not resist .

Hope in a couple of months that statement don't come back and haunt me and i come on here saying Guess what i just bought......Its even dafter than Purchasing that Playstation 4 game KNACK

A Wii U?

I don't agree with people buying loads of them just to sell but if you had one and someone wanted to pay three or four times what you paid for it you'd be daft not to sell. Anyone that wants to pay that much over the odds for one rather than just wait a bit longer is a fool.

Never say Never

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

Unless you're one of the people who wanted one to play but couldn't get one. Greed, no better than ticket touts.

water off a ducks back , anyone that says they don't have a price is as big a fool as those that pay that price .

And I do indeed have a history of selling my place in que's and selling at a profit but is that really being greedy ?

In all honesty if you step away from the petty arguments about which console has the better hardware there really is not very much else about the PS4 that says nextgen . its simply just a more powerful console with not much innovation . IMHO .

Not sure you can actually say there is no Innovation in a Playstation 4,it looks a lot nicer and better looking than the Xbox One that looks like a VCR from the 80s.

They have most of the indi devs working on it,take away the multi media functions of the Xbox One and the integration with the TV and all that stuff that most gamers don't care about as we already have Sky Tv and Dvd Players hooked up why would we care.

If none of us had the above then it would be a useful system ,but since this was a massive part of there reveal that went pear shaped in the first place who cares,because Gamers that supported the Xbox Brand aired there views Bigtime all over the internet and with the pre/order sales charts regarding both systems.

You know i hope your right and I'm wrong regarding the Xbox One,i haven't got a problem back tracking and picking one up if there online service and games are as good as you are expecting it to be.

There online was way better and there ports where also better,but i now feel that on the ports sides of things the playstation 4 will not look worse than its counterpart and think if anything it will be the ultimate version.

What the console looks like is purely an objective thing . me personally , I absolutely don't care , its not even on my list of considerations . I would never pick form over function .

Now you make a list of some of the innovations that are coming with the xbone and dismiss them as petty but mis what I believe is going to be the game changer , the one thing that every single person that has a PS4 on pre-order Does not want to debate .

Xbox Live and cloud computation for games with dedicated servers for every game . Its a massive deal and the reason I have moved to the Xbone camp .

I don't believe porting a game from one console to the other is going to be a issue as the arcuteture are more or less the same but porting a game that uses cloud computation to a console that does not ,could be very interesting .

PS4 will have Gaikai which is a cloud/streaming service, from what I have read it will be for streaming PS1/PS2 & PS3 games but I don't see why it can't also be used for streaming PS4 games if they wanted to.

Looks like cloud gaming is the future but the big question is what speed internet connections will be needed for it? I know here in the UK they are trying to rollout supertfast connections to most people but what about the rest of the world..?

Here is the real problem for Sony . at this moment and almost definitely most of next year there will be no cloud service .

Sony where caught completely unaware by Microsoft's cloud announcement and everything that's happening now with Sony is all catch up , with nothing confirmed and I do mean nothing .

Internet recommendation for the Xbone is 1.5 up and down . I would imagine most ADSL2+ connection will just about do .

Edited by deleted (Fri 18-Oct-13 16:59:47)