In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

that price is very low, where is that from?

Its almost £100 less than amazon.

I assume the tv is the same spec as mine given the model number with the exception of the screen size. My tv has got good reviews for games.

It's the plastic fake display model in Richer Sounds Window

that tft site is ok, but the data is a bit outdated.

eg. my dell IPS monitor is way faster than all my TN screens, my TN screens cant even keep up with me moving my mouse around (yes I can visibly see a trail). My dell IPS (2209wa) performance feels like a CRT, prety much no shadows/trails on anything. Of course dell withdrew this monitor quickly because it was TOO good for the price.

On TV's you unlikely to come across TN panels as they designed for tv/movies mainly which TN isnt suited for, so it will generally either be VA or IPS. The samsung TV's should typically be S-PVA panels. But since tech is changing all the time, a VA panel of 2013 is probably vastly different to one of 2006 in lag etc.

I have 2 IPS screens in front of me now and they are noticebly different to each other. The dell has almost perfect viewing angles, pretty much no distortion whatsoever even at 178 degress, the IPS next to it one I got earlier this year (half the price I should add so I expect corners cut) has noticebly worse viewing angles, less sharp image but does have better contrast ratio due to been LED backlit and is proper HD with hdmi (the dell has no hdmi port and isnt full HD res). Also my dell is true 8 bit colours with the newer IPS been 6bit+FRC.

The sumsung tv you picked by the way is also LED backlit.

What I noticed with my samsung, is there is 2 block modes. One (I think the default) offers more black/grey detail, so you see more shades of grey but at the expense of brighter blacks, so black isnt so dark. The other mode has darker blacks but you lose black/grey detail, so grey eg. can also look black. In games I expect detail will be important so you will probably end up using the mode that has less darker blacks.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

that price is very low, where is that from?

Its almost £100 less than amazon.

I assume the tv is the same spec as mine given the model number with the exception of the screen size. My tv has got good reviews for games.

Exclusive to Richer Sounds I believe.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

that price is very low, where is that from?

Its almost £100 less than amazon.

I assume the tv is the same spec as mine given the model number with the exception of the screen size. My tv has got good reviews for games.

Amazon have it for the same price £379 but don't think it has the 5 year warranty.

Nice TV and 5 years warranty is brilliant, not often you see that included. Don't know why they say it is 1080p HD ready on that site when that is obviously full HD.

From the reviews I've read it sounds really good

Ah just found this http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/samsung-ue42f5000-42...

These TV's are plagued by the panel lottery, you have a 3/4 chance of getting a totally unsuitable TV with poor black levels, blurring and ghosting.
Ask if you can open the box and check the service menu first before you buy these, as unless you get the good panel, totally not worth the money.

http://www.hifivision.com/television/16161-samsung-l...

Blimey it does get confusing

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types...

I could do with a new tele as my 37" Samsung LCD is probably about 9 years old now and something like this with none of the smart stuff sounds perfect for me. I don't ever watch television programs and don't even have an aerial, all I use it for is to play games and watch dvds.

My set maybe old but the picture quality is fantastic even better than my mates new LG tele, hopefully this should be even better.


I read somewhere that 600Hz is plasma only

In reply to a post by Lt_Swan:

I don't ever watch television programs and don't even have an aerial, all I use it for is to play games and watch dvds.

So, do you know Spongebob Squarepants is then?

they have it from different sellers, I probably found a different one by accident. ok.

on mine the panel lottery also exists but is only one of 2 different panels so the odds are better, seems the 42" version is a worse lottery.

I confirmed via the tv service menu I have a s-pva.

by the way if you get the tv and use the service menu to check panel type, I highly suggest taking a picture of the screen incase you need to refer back to it at a later date, the reason is everytime you enter the service menu, even if you touch nothing and just view the information, all the settings on the tv get reset. so its not good having to reconfigure the tv every time.

Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 11-Nov-13 00:36:19)

Yes that can be annoying, I would rather the market place was a bit more separated.. something like ' item out of stock from Amazon but available from the following sellers...'