I appreciate its minimal however add the non streaming currently, it appears to me, Sony are trying desperately to beat Microsoft in ending their association with consoles.

what do you mean by 'non streaming' ?

I thought DNLA had been confirmed as an update along with MP3 support? Granted it would have been better straight out of the box, but then the console won't do anything straight out of the box other than play disc based games, until the day one patch is installed.

I suspect that helped speed up production time in the face of such a huge number of pre orders. I could live with just the games for longer to be honest, that's primarily why I want the PS4 over the new Xbox. I don't really intend to stream or play mp3 on it, though I might dabble when it is eventually implemented.

Edit: Some related into here.

Edited by mrnelster (Thu 14-Nov-13 21:14:34)

In reply to a post by astateoftrance:

what do you mean by 'non streaming' ?

I think he is referring to DLNA as per my reply. Explanation here mate.

Ahh right, I remember reading about that now. It is surprising a basic thing like that is not available right away but as it looks like it will be added in a update it's not really a issue. Like you said PS4 is primarily a gaming machine so even if DLNA was not available it's hardly a deal breaker.

Edited by astateoftrance (Thu 14-Nov-13 21:46:04)

...PS4 is primarily a gaming machine so even if DLNA was not available it's hardly a deal breaker.

That's my attitude too, athough I have to admit the only reason I don't stream stuff is because I can't be arsed flaffing around with different devices. A bit lazy perhaps, but I like to spend the limited time I get to myself, actually gaming.

My love of tech stuff is firmly rooted in the driver's seat, not the settings menu.

I have used my PS3 for a fair bit of local streaming over the years but now I am just using streaming services like Netflix and NOW TV.

Well even though sony saying not major

its worrying they would even give fail units to IGN and Kotako

i see its an HDMI related issue?

You really think they gave Kotako and Ign faulty units on purpose,if anything those units would have been tested to death....still think its firmware related because most of the problems if not all seem to be occurring after the firmware update.

Just hope they get it right for the European launch in 2 weeks....seems the Yanks are our beta testers at present .

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

In reference to www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/14/ps4-reported-failure-rate-is-under-...:

...the reported failure ratio is 0.175%, which is minimal.

As a term of comparison, in 2008 the Xbox 360 was reported to have a 16% failure ratio, while the PS3 and the Wii had a 3% failure ratio.

According to Consumer Reports data the average failure ratio of consumer electronic sits at around 15%.

Bump (before the hysterics start again).