no, I really dont know what the point of this drivel is, you are just baiting for an argument for whatever reason.

It was the industry standard many years ago to supply dedicated servers without subscription.
Not to mention on the xbox 360 there was subscription fees for peer to peer playing (no dedicated servers).
Servers wouldnt be free because activision games are not free to buy.

I can understand subscription fees on games that have no purchase cost, but those fees to the game publisher not to the console manufacturer.

Microsoft were charging fees simply for been the portal, nothing else. It worked as people had no alternative. If you want to watch netflix on your xbox360 you pay the fee, simple as that really. If you want to play multiplayer on your xbox 360 exclusive game you pay the fee, its really that simple.

I am not questioning the value of the ps3 psn package, thats an entirely different subject, as on the ps3 watching netflix requires no psn fee, also there is no fee for multiplayer on the ps3.

On the ps4 there is a fee for multiplaying gaming, sony are struggling financially, they realised people will pay it, so it makes good business sense, but thankfully they are not requiring psn payments for netflix etc. Do I think paying a monthly sub for multiplayer gaming is right? no, but I do understand why sony are charging for it.

The same applies on the PC, eg. I think games like WoW are horrible for the industry. Since blizzard released WoW and it became a cashcow the amount of single player games they have released has almost come to a standstill.

I dont need to make a post just to pat someone on the back, there is already enough of that. I only post things usually to either debate or point out problems. So I have to post gleaming feedback to have respect, I guess I dont get your respect then.

I dont need to make a post just to pat someone on the back, there is already enough of that. I only post things usually to either debate or point out problems. So I have to post gleaming feedback to have respect, I guess I dont get your respect then.

Above is another of your snide fanboy references. I don't do snide, I tell it like it is. You are an obvious troll and appear to struggle to comprehend what you actually type.

You are continually trying to create a fanboy issue on this forum where there isn't one and it's fast becoming irksome.

The American market is not as strong as Xbox land the home of Microsoft so Sony targeted that area 2 weeks before the European release date which is next Friday November 29th.

Microsoft did i worldwide launch all at the same time,but where Sony have about 30 regions or there or there about i think Microsoft system only went to about 13 regions.

pinball FX is a Great game if you like pinball.
I love the new Star Wars tables they brought out for the xbox360 version.
For the xbox360 the game is free but you need to buy table bundles to play.
You get trail tables to see if you like them before you buy.

Yes, it's a bit cheeky having to pay for extra tables, but it is a good game. Never been particularly good at pinball, probably due to lack of weapons or violence

Im no pinball king myself friend,but I do find it fun to play on.
Great detail as gone into some of the tables.
Anyway have yourself a great Sunday mate.

Best Regards'
John

I doubt I would bother on the TV but I might have a look for some pinball for the vita. I seem to remember seeing it when browsing the store and it spot on for travel or bog play.

Edit: Just found these reviews on Metacritic so I'm going to download it in a bit.

Edited by mrnelster (Sun 24-Nov-13 14:23:11)

Get real...Greatness awaits and that pinball game will never see the light of day again,besides I would rather put sand in my eyes

I don't think its that bad. The tables aren't that expensive and in the old days (pinball dreams anyone?) you would get a couple of tables and that was it - if you wanted more you had to wait for the sequel.

As for the game itself , its a good way to spend a few minutes and the way it shows your steam friends' accomplishments adds to the competitive feel.

trolling is trying to generate an argument, what do you think you are doing?

me and time2die are cool with each other now, the only guy on here now trying to cause a fuss is you.

you say you disrespect me because I dont have a posting style which is just to leap praise on a company, then you change tone again saying my issue is just anti fanboy (well yes I admit I hate fanboys) but you are saying it in a way that you think every comment I make is aimed at fanboys, not really no.

I think half of your replies to me are aimed at provoking an argument (or to bully me off), its pretty clear and I would say you lucky that the moderation on this site is very soft and easy going.

You seem more interested in me than the points I make.