That was the opening credits wasn't it

So you gave up just because you got stuck,tell you now Swanny its one of the greatest online tactical games you would have ever played and you have really missed a masterclass of online team play.

I remember a few of your posts about short game length of some FPS games, I downloaded a FFX story video of youtube, the video just has the cutscenes and boss fight highlights (not full length fights) and surprisingly the video was over 11 hours long. That gives you the idea of how much gameplay you get in jrpg's, the cutscenes and boss fights alone are longer than full games of other genres.

In reply to a post by time2die:

So you gave up just because you got stuck

I lost count of the number of times I tried to get past that bit. In the end it just [censored] me off so I gave up
All my mates are on ps4's now so online probably wouldn't be that good for me

Then buy a Playstation 4 you know it makes sense,especially if all your mates have them.

Did you get rid of it Swanny or do you want to sell it back to me? I will keep it for the PS3 for my eldest to play. I only bought the remastered ps4 version to play online, but I've been replaying the single player before moving on to the Left Behind DLC that was included. I can't remember the last time I replayed a game. We played a guy online last night and he said "I've only just bought this, have you tried the single player yet? It almost made me cry in the first 10 minutes." And that coming from a northerner (double 'ard [censored]).

As an all in experience (fighting/shooting/looting/survival) it is by far the best story game I have ever played. The gaming press have their moments, but this is an undisputed master class in game design. That said, it will never be everyones bag of course.

I've still got it. I never trade games I just keep them :/
I might have one more try and if I can't get passed you can have it if you like

The trick is Swanny (if you're stuck where I think you are) to make sure you put all your resources into shivs. Throw a brick/bottle to draw the clicker into where you can shiv him without attracting the other clickers. With the runners just strangle them and don't waste a shiv, but again throw a brick/bottle to move the clickers away, then they don't clock you taking out the runner.

It's only the clickers that require any serious stealth tactics Once you get the hang of that the gameplay becomes a great mix of action and combat.

You drop down to a floor and there are a few of them there. I almost did it a couple of times

I'm waiting for the price drop

Well I would never have guessed,I never thought for 1 minute that you were a tight arsed [censored]...