Don't be so stupid > Platinum

The manufacturer said it will support 4k on one screen or 4 screens at 1080p? Do you not trust them?

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Don't be so stupid > Platinum

Standard or the Duck Biilled? Oooh, suits you sir!

I never said it cant output at 4k

running well at a reasonable framerate with high detail is an entirely other matter tho.

Dont be fooled by marketing.

A £30 card can output at 4k but it would run like [censored] in games.

Not being fooled, is not the same as seeing deceipt everywhere. You tend to be negative towards many of my posts PC wise. It'd more helpful if you offered reference material.

You are, after all, just a bloke on the Internet. You need to prove to me why I shouldn't believe the manufacturer over you. Otherwise it just appears elitist.

Believe me, if I had the time to get into PC's properly, I would make you look strictly amateur.

I'm a genius.

well I can stop advising you and let you spend and be disappointed instead?

Companies dont care about misleading marketing, the gtx 970 farce should tell you that.

If you think a single gtx970m can be great at 4k gaming then why are people using dual titans?

You accept my word or you dont.

MY knowledge is simply from years of experience and I tend to research as well, given I only recently brought my 970 I have done a lot of recent research as well as following pc news.

All you need to do is google for reviews, benchmarks, read pc tech forums, maybe watch some pc tech videos and you will see for yourself.

One of the guys I sub from reviewtechusa has done a few steam box videos.

here is one, if you fine with 30fps

http://www.eteknix.com/4k-gaming-showdown-amd-r9-290...

Note tho newer games tax gpu's more. The gtx 780 is roughly about 30% more powerful than a 970m.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-970M-vs-GeForce-...

That gpuboss comparison is actually worse than the reality as its trivial to overclock a 970 by 30% or so, e.g. I run mine at 1460mhz, a 970m is locked at 924mhz.

So even tho the 970m has a similiar name its not close in performance.

Thsi paints a even more grim picture.

Look at the framrate for TWO 970 overclocked cards. barely 30fps.

http://www.techspot.com/review/898-geforce-gtx-970-s...

2 970s overclock I would guestimate to be about 300% of a 970m at least.

Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 12-Mar-15 19:08:30)

That's as maybe, but sharing your experience with others takes a little more than simply saying "how it is". It all starts to sound trite otherwise.

I'm happy to accept objective advice. If I think it sounds like a drum being banged, I tend to tune out and go and research for myself. I don't believe you need Titans to achieve 4k. I still don't believe the manufacturers would build in 4 monitor support at less than 1080.

And I also seem to remember you saying you had decided that 30fps felt better than 60 not so long back and that you get used to the change very quickly?

yeah but what I am ok with is irrelevant to what you want.

are you happy with 30fps if at 4k?

The single 970 on the crysis benchmark still only managed 16fps tho.

As I said before the steam box will allow you to play at 4k, but the performance will probably leave something to be desired, this will depend on the game but newer games will likely be more demanding than older games. I think in another thread I mentioned that you could turn down various options to make 4k run faster, but then the game wont look very nice, more pixels but with less visual detail and effects.

Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 12-Mar-15 22:34:06)

I've been quite clear what I want it for though and that is only one game. Do you think Project Cars will run at 4k on it? Do you think racers are as demanding as Crysis and the like?

DriveClub on Ps4 performs incredibly and if you ignore the 60/30fps bickering, you can't knock it visually at all. You say that processor will outperform the ps4, so it sounds reasonable to me that it may be able to reach 4k at 30 frames on a game (Project Cars) with noticeably less detailed visuals than DriveClub? Untrustworthy marketing (possibility or not) is a diversion to any real analysis or evidence based on the specs.

What about Ultra on a 40" display? Will it look just as good and is there any need for 4k then? Do you think the Zotac can handle that?

The thing is Chrysalis, it's easy to find PC elitists all over the web slagging off SteamBoxes, but it sounds just like the normal PC/console fanboyism. I'm trying to find objective comparisons with evidence.not podcast rants and the like. They're not constructive.

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