I didn't say anything about overclocking a GPU. I said just get on with playing with a great graphics card, a GTX 980, and that CPU will rock without any tweaking at all.

Saying that most gamers who build are actually overclocking, is more nonsense, unless you can provide some research statistics? Listing the places you've read about people doing it, is plain daft. Hobbyists overclock and some builders might dabble, simple as that.

And by the way, I have a 4690k. I might mess about with it, I might not. Does that mean I'm not a good gamer?

You really do need to let go of this console grudge you have. I don't know if it's because you're into conspiracy theories, or whether Sony has shafted you on a purchase in the past, but whatever you might think you are saying when you post, it always comes across to everyone else as Sony hate. Which is fine too, but get your facts right.

Disagreeing with you is not pickng on you. The onus is on you not to make stupid and contentious posts in the first place. The other contributors knocked Sony with regards to backwards compatibility and pricing. They didn't claim consoles were finished, and that the sales figures are all made up!

On the pc that problem doesnt exist, if you upgrade your gpu in say 5 years time your old games dont suddenly stop working.

You'll be replacing your over clocked CPU way before then.

Not picking on you just disagreeing with what you said. Didn't take Swanny's post seriously so didn't reply to it in a serious way.

The current consoles have been out for 2 years now so those sales numbers can't be down to hype.

In reply to a post by time2die:

The only thing that may well possibly die regarding consoles is Disk based games in the future as digital content and Cloud Gaming seems to be where they would like to go.

Yeah I reckon that is the future, games streamed to use from the cloud..not sure how long until we get there but it will have to be when the infrastructure is in place.

Took you long enough!

Fell on his feet an'all with that 980, jammy b*gger!

I'd like the future to be external graphics cards on a generic set top box. You buy yourself your card of choice, and you can swap it between that and your pc as you like. Then Sony charge you "x" quid a month to get at their library and exclusives. MS do the same with the Bone and BOOM! Best of both worlds without having to pick sides, with easy visual upgrades as and when you can afford it. What's not to like?

If only.....

Yeah would be cool........I would have twin cards in my next playstation and 100 meg of Ram.

then again i may well invest in a nice Walking stick instead......Bone carved of course .

My patience now with many games is diminishing by the week,so I'm not sure that say in 5 years i will even have much interest unless there is a wheel chair simulator

Edited by time2die (Sun 22-Nov-15 16:01:37)

unless there is a wheel chair simulator

Hmmmm....That's got potential if you can soup your chair up and get cunning stunt bonuses!

Yeah would be cool........I would have twin cards in my next playstation and 100 meg of Ram

I've got 1024 meg in my old dell. You can have that at mates rates if you like?

50 quid?