by the way I have the original ps3 and it may surprise you its smaller than the ps4 its only bigger in one of the three dimensions. PS4 is bigger in the other two.

Slim models save the manufacturer costs, as they cheaper to make typically, but also the newer designs can be enough to persuade some people to buy them when they already own an older model. They also usually are more power efficient.

Bit like the Nintendo Wii U then and the upcoming Nintendo NX,as Nelly said Technology does not stand still.

I was amazed to see just a couple a months ago the Samsung S7 advertised literally 8 months of the S6 Edge.

Yeah its not good that 2.5 years later we may have a console upgrade,and if what you say is correct and the better games are developed for the 4.5 opposed to the Playstation 4 then i kind of agree playstation 4 owners will be annoyed.

But i don't want to be stuck with console restrictions when i have the opportunity to upgrade to something twice as powerful.

How many times do we here PC Gamers complaining about consoles holding back PC development and getting shoddy ports.

Lets face it when released both the Xbox One and Playstation 4 were out of date already compared to what a mid range PC can achieve in terms of visuals graphics and resolution.

Personally i hope Nintendo NX really has more Grunt than whats on offer at present as thats only good news for gamers and slaps in the face of lazy developers that keep churning out games not fit for a Playstation 2,i would also love Sega to make a return on the console scene and really spice things up.

Edited by time2die (Tue 05-Apr-16 18:17:53)

And a slim version will end up costing gamers just as much in reality as the playstation 4 costs at present,but nobody moans and groans and it has no more power than what they have at present.

If I'm spending another £300 i want something that gives me something new and exciting, something with a lot more power and not a slimmed down version of a console that looks fine in its present state but is basically identical to whats inside already.

the out of date factor was sony and microsoft's fault not the consumers.

Although i cannot but help feel they are just providing for developers rather than the people buying the kit.

I feel developers (not just game developers) are getting more lazy as time moves on and I have seen developers work in strange ways such as "optimizing" last. By that I mean they wont code from the ground up for good light fast code, they only work on performance right at the end at which point its often too late and they can only do "hacks" to minimise pain.

In the gaming industry a good example of this is developers writing a technical demo to run on a few titan GPUs and then over the next few years working on the code to make it run on consoles. When what they should be doing instead is writing the code for those platforms from day one.

Nintendo have also [censored] me off yes, will I buy the NX? highly unlikely.

The last gen lasted 8 years and was fine.

Phones are different again because although there is new models every year, people dont usually update every year, and software is not restricted or just to run properly on new phones. Plus people get phones on package deals and are not paying out the sort of expense on all new accessories etc.

So in short

Regular upgrades are ok for phones
ok for pc
not ok for consoles

I am not a wealthy person, if I was I may not care, what 400 + 100 on accessories every couple of years right? and a big living space to fit all these consoles into. But thats not the case for me. Some parents eg. might have to take 3 years to save up for the console for the kid, they buy it and its already not the latest, ouch.

Your upgrade option is there in the form of a pc.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 05-Apr-16 17:53:30)

I don't agree. If that was the spec of the PS5 I would be bitterly disappointed!

We'll see how much of the detail from the current rumours becomes reality, but one thing is for sure, Sony supports its consoles for a long time. Not to, would be a dramatic and damaging u-turn; to be brutally honest, it's unimaginable.

with the slim its for those people who dont buy on day one, remember when these slim models come out is still millions of people not yet brought them, waiting for prices to drop, which they do on the slim models.

I do think that it's poor from sony to bring an updated console to the market inside 3 years of the previous one, sadly none of us including myself will vote with our wallets!

I will Says the guy that dumped his Xbox One then bought another

Edited by time2die (Tue 05-Apr-16 18:17:06)

Why do they make consoles so big in the first place?

To stop them melting.