I don't think they mean compete head to head, that would be futile. They mean give the hardcore consoler the extra grunt to stop his eyes wandering. I think they should achieve that at least.

As for PSVR not working on PS4, I don't buy that for a second. It's a Pachter type claim that is wholly subjective and dependant on the quality of visuals you're expecting from VR on PC's, but we all knew that would be the definitive visual experience from the get go didn't we? It's not going to look "a mess" on PS4, which is the claim that was made.

Well if this Pro console is not needed for VR then it is a big mistake IMO. Playstation have done great so far this generation and sold loads of consoles. They should have just continued with the current PS4 and concentrated on releasing great games and worked on a PS5 for a 2018 release.

These upgrades just feel a mess to me and takeaway from what consoles are about. Could just be me though maybe the majority of people will be happy with a new console every 2 years or so. If that is the case I will personally go back to PC then at least benefit from cheaper games.

With that said I am really enjoying playing some great games on the PS4 right now. Want to see that continue.

The VR works perfect with the current Playstation,after all what point would there be in releasing it in October 13th when the Playstation Pro isn't out until November 10th.

This pretty much sums up how I feel. PS Pro not as good as the Scorpio and nowhere near as good as a PC. Sony have done great so far this generation and have been ahead but I can see MS taking the lead next year.

Not if Sony then come up with yet another console 6 months later which is the proper upgrade called a Playstation 5 Do you see Sony coming to market with the Scorpio and doing nothing about it ?,There R and D department are probably getting no sleep and a re frantically thinking of what measures to take this time next year,even if they don't release a new playstation 5 they can announce something to take the shine of the Scorpio.

Some very valid points there!!

Quite likely so may as well wait for either the PS5 or Scorpio.

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I'll stick to the normal PS4 until I manage to get a 4K TV

I will stick with the normal PS4 until there is a good reason to get a 4K TV. Until then I am happy to stick with Plasma.

Thats my feeling. As much as I am a stickler to buying new technology im more than happy with my Samsung 1080p Plasma. Took me long enough to choose that to just loose money on tv and ps4 and then go hunting again for another tv.
As beautiful as the Oled 4k tvs look. Im even thinking of saving my cash and skipping the whole of this generation.
Skip Ps4 pro and 4k tv's and in a few year get PS5 and 16k or whatever will ve the next standard.

I actually bought Plasma at its death at the beginning of 2015, the last in the line of the LG productions with 5 years warranty, and glad I did...will wait until the market settles. I have said it before and I will say it again...the whole irony with 4K is ridiculous.

At one time people strived to get the best in audio, a lot these days are happy with compressed [censored], yet want the best in picture quality and rushing to upgrade their 1080P sets with budget edge lit 4K TVs not even realising there is next to know reference level content out there.......and once again, having compressed [censored].

The amount of people on HUKD saying that physical media is dead, yet even at 1080P, blu ray far surpasses both the bitrate quality of streamed services, as well as providing in many cases uncompressed audio.

Cue 4K.....the problem worsens, unless you buy UHD discs, even with H.265 codec being far more efficient than existing H.264 the best that Netflix is pushing out is marginally better than standard Blu Ray discs....and still not offering uncompressed audio.

Physical media is far from dead in those that want the best quality viewing experience aside streaming your own rips providing you have the bandwidth, paid services just don't cut it, and most certainly essential currently to get the most out of a 4K TV, clearly the streaming services are not offering much more than 1080P Blu Ray quality, the irony being that even with that many wonder why people buy Blu Ray instead of streaming....yet are happy to buy 4K TVs to be ahead of the curve....lol.

It's way too early to market, expensive UHD discs and players, a fight between budget LED lit LCDs, the array of Quantum/Nano dot TVs in another attempt to push more out of LCD and then in the true successor to Plasma camp the OLED still being very expensive.

Then, even if you cared less about film, it's clear that gaming this generation is most certainly not going to provide you with a proper 4K experience....granted HDR will make things pop on screen better with vibrancy....but I am happy to wait.

Admittedly anyone wanting to buy a new TV as of now or replacing a dying or upsizing from an existing one would do wise in investing in a 4K/UHD TV but seriously I would not be happy in a marketplace that has not matured...especially as not all 4K TVs are HDR capable even.

Edited by deleted (Sun 18-Sep-16 11:30:47)

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