Thanks. Yes think I will go with the i3 6100, should give good performance coupled with a half decent GFX card and gives me a upgrade path if I want to go for a i5 in the future.

found this video very informative

This is why a couple of us advised you to wait for zen.

Which was silly based on the stated budget. The quad Zen equivalent would likely cost him £225. That's blown 3/4 of his £300 budget already.

Also your link didn't even cover the i3 he mentioned in his specification; and those results were based on a GTX 1080 and a 480X. Well outside of the budget too.

Gaming Nexus is always biased towards higher end builds; that's not what was asked for in the OP. If he'd had a few more quid to spend I'd have recommended the i5 4690k immediately, as would "a couple of us here".

It's fine for the thread to evolve into something higher spec, but that's not what he asked for so your gloating is daft. It's not a competition.

It is if I'm buying a PC

They run hot
They use nearly double the electricity
Their "quadcores" are getting beat by dual core i3s with HT

What isn't lackluster?

and before you go "but but DX12!!!"

Like 3-4 games use that and not well either.

compared to 100000s of games that don't

From the OP

In reply to a post by astateoftrance:

Any thoughts/advice ? want it to be under £300

Question:

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

I hope you meant under £300 for the GPU not the PC total smile as you wont get a useable GPU for £60.

Clarification:

In reply to a post by astateoftrance:

£300 or under without the the GPU is what I was aiming for. Not yet sure if I will game on it or not

Go find better [brand new] performance at that price point, or insist to the poster that he must increase his budget. It's pointless coming out with the usual anti AMD bias to me.

I have an i5 4690K and a 390X that run games maxed out beautifully, though a little blowy when things get hectic. A little more blowy than a 970, but no jet engine as some of you like to make out. My PS4 gets louder. 40 million gamers seem to manage?

Not having £300 to spend on a GPU is the norm. AMD is relevant to the majority of gamers. Lacklustre is disingenuous, particularly with relation to this OP, and as I said, it's ok for the budget to evolve throughout the thread, but none of you are on spec. Beating the enthusiast builder drum doesn't properly inform a budget builder.

Really, he needs at least £400 to go [entry level] discrete.

nelly its not bias its based on simple facts. Intel is ahead in "relevant" performance, temps and power consumption. The only win for AMD is the better integrated gpu.

AMD have stagnated in the CPU department for years now. At one point they simply stopped bringing out new cpu tech, Zen is their first update for quite a while.

I would say going for an i3 with an option to swap it out for an i5 or i7 later is a sound choice.

Also evident in the BF1 benches is how small an affect hyperthreading has and the enthusiast intel cpu right at the top which has extra cores also having a small improvement in relation to # of cores.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 08-Nov-16 07:23:25)

I would say going for an i3 with an option to swap it out for an i5 or i7 later is a sound choice.

Agreed, but personally I don't think it's achievable on £300 in the meantime without a discreet GPU. The onboard visuals will look pretty poor.

the impression I get is initially the pc is for non gaming purposes, of which I think i3 is still the better choice, but if he decides to game it seems likely he will get a gpu.

Yes to clarify I do not intend on gaming on the PC without a GPU so the onboard graphics are not all that important as long as they run the basic general computing stuff. If I get a GPU it would probably be a 470.

Was about to order the parts but will probably hold out for black friday now as it just around the corner.

Finally got around to doing the build today went for a i3 6100, single 8 GB DDR4, 128 GB SSD. Kept my old case for now (ancient chieftec dragon w00t!) was going to go for a budget case but then thought thats pointless, this is a solid quality case so I am not changing it for a cheapo one. Kept my existing OCZ 500w PSU and 500 GB seagate HDD. Also stumped £89.99 for a legit Windows copy

Not sure if I will be gaming on it or not, been very happy lying on the couch playing the PS4 recently so don't have the urge to PC game. My daughter wants Sims 4 for Xmas so she is likely to be on it more. If I get a GPU thinking a 1050ti or 470.