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Standard User mrnelster
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 01-Jan-18 02:13:30
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Your aim is way off
Accuracy 8.437%
Don�t be that guy Swanny.
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(deleted) Mon 01-Jan-18 12:01:21
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smile Practice makes perfect young man. If I don't play for a week or so I'm more rubbish than usual
Standard User mrnelster
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 01-Jan-18 13:45:57
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I know you don�t believe it Swanny, and that�s why so many gamers get so frustrated. Because it doesn�t effect them, other users blame their fellow gamers.

Go back to my clip and watch the head and neck show at 0:50

The people that I play COD with also play BF1. They came round yesterday (to start work on a killer hangover cool ) said they�d never experienced anything like it. The odd bullet sponge yes, but not every encounter, and certainly not head and neck shots not doing damage. So we played rallycross on PC2 instead.

I�ve got a video of you and I playing BF1 on Sinai, and after a firmware update, it for some reason automatically set the capture to record voice too. I�ve never uploaded it because I don�t want my [or your] voice broadcast on YouTube, but suffice to say you were getting insta-killed and doing your [censored] nut big time!!

Nobody in the party told you you couldn�t aim. What you need to remember is, that some players experience that nine out of ten games, not the one out of ten games that you do. It�s not a cockfight. It doesn�t matter at all whose the greatest player in the party. It�s simply about quality of experience. I�ve nerfed my connection in COD and now I get as many good games as bad. I�m happy with that. I can�t get Battlefield sorted though. I play with a high turn speed, but for BF1 I�ve had to turn it right down to 20% because there is no slow down at all. Everybody has at least slight snap to target, you just don�t realise it.

The auto rotation videos I posted, show what happens when your ISP connection is at odds with the developers linear interpolation settings. There is obviously an opposite end to that spectrum too. Altering your LERP settings is generally seen as hacking in the PC community. When those settings are out of your control, it�s as good as an ISP supplied aimbot. If you actually watched the video, you would realise that that foreign poster believed it was the same for everybody, but that not everybody knew how to switch it on. It�s actually enabled by default. It simply doesn�t work the same on every connection and that�s beyond his comprehension.

I�ve got pages of community support from developers trying to understand players� issues, and concluding that it�s always the ISP that seems to be the problem. But I doubt you�d bother reading it if I posted it for you. Halo players getting advice (and helping with patches) from 343 developers support forums. If you believe the facile nonsense of high KD players, you�d believe that XBox live is some sort of gamng Utopia and that Halo is the sport of fps kings. The developers support forums prove that it�s really not.

In the meantime I�ll keep experimenting with my latency to try to get on the right side of the net code. The fact is, that works, but it doesn�t make for the smoothest gameplay. What I have deduced so far, is that:

A) a high ping helps, but doesn�t make for the smoothest gameplay experience.

B) a low ping IS better, but only IF you have perfect throughput from your ISP

I�m going to start a process with my ISP about my ping spikes. I record an average 27ms in BF1, but somewhere on my ISP�s routing, buffer bloat pushes that to spikes of around 140+ ms. Pull up your in game network monitor, and watch how the net code applies all sorts of latency prediction, every step, and ever shot throughout the game. It�s clever [censored]. What it can�t do though, is correct for completely inconsistent latencies.

Why don�t you go into the advanced settings, turn off auto rotation and slow down aim assist, and see how much of your controller aim is actually down to you? Failing that, come up for a cup of tea and experience my connection for yourself? I don�t bite. wink


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Standard User mrnelster
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 01-Jan-18 14:00:57
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My ping often jumps to the 100-200 range in Battlefield but I don't notice any problems, if it didn't have the annoying network warning things flash up on screen I probably wouldn't know. A good/normal ping for me is 30 odd.

Be interesting to see what difference there is when we eventually get FTTP enabled here.
Those warnings are to tell you to lead your shots because your connection is lagging. I only get them if I nerf my connection into the hundreds.

I believe that BF1 has better code than COD and that�s why I can�t nerf it successfully. Trying to has led me to some extremely interesting technical sources. They point to my ISP�s routing, although I don�t hold too much hope for being able to change that. If I can get through to the really smart guys there, that would be an interesting start.

What I have learnt, is that over the last couple of years, shooters have moved to skill based matchmaking. That being an admission that it�s more consistent when relying on players� stats, than on players� connections.

Because if you have a better connection, you�re going to have better stats, even if you�re slightly lesser in terms of ability of course.
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(deleted) Mon 01-Jan-18 14:36:40
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If you were closer I would smile I think you should change the hit marker colours just to see what they are saying in relation to your sights.
I think I did turn off aim assist a while ago as I didn't like it tracking people I wasn't trying to aim at. I'll check later
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 01-Jan-18 15:41:06
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Will have a look in a bit (when I can stand the light again...) and see where that is smile
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(deleted) Mon 01-Jan-18 21:09:45
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Right the way I see it you took 58 health out of him with 12 ish bullets which isn't bad for an MP18 at that range. He is a level 98 player and has at least 700 kills with that BAR which is also much more deadly at that range. I can see the gun pulling around like you say.
The weapons in BF1 become more accurate if you keep firing, they start off spraying but will pull back on target. You can see that happening with your score. Initial hit then misses but then back on target
Try using the MP 18 Optical that has a better sight and is better at range.

Your accuracy has gone up a lot. Have a chocolate bar smile

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Standard User mrnelster
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 02-Jan-18 00:01:36
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I really don�t know what your problem is Swanny.
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(deleted) Tue 02-Jan-18 00:33:03
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I know you don�t believe it Swanny, and that�s why so many gamers get so frustrated. Because it doesn�t effect them, other users blame their fellow gamers.

Go back to my clip and watch the head and neck show at 0:50

The people that I play COD with also play BF1. They came round yesterday (to start work on a killer hangover cool ) said they�d never experienced anything like it. The odd bullet sponge yes, but not every encounter, and certainly not head and neck shots not doing damage.


I'm not disbelieving what you are saying and I'm not trying to say you're rubbish at gaming. I just commented on the clip that you posted as an outsider watching some game play and trying to make sense of it. I even slowed down the video even more. I'm trying to understand.
Consoles are (insert forbidden word) for FPS. It took me ages to learn how to play them. Even now I'm still not as good as I used to be on the PC

Are you using wi-fi or homeplugs? Have you tried both?
Standard User mrnelster
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 02-Jan-18 12:10:50
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Yes you are. frown

I�ve posted you some (of the hundreds) of videos showing how aim assist is an aimbot on some connections.

Other people have an insta-death problem once in a blue moon (how it�s supposed t be).

So logically, there is another end to that scale, where a player can�t get any decent gameplay in at all, with almost incessant insta-death.

You definitely have aim assist, it�s a console. You just won�t realise how much that almost imperceivable �snap� counts, until it�s completely gone.

There are hundreds of easily available videos on YouTube showing the same net code issues.

DICE keep patching the code to prevent high pingers from beating low pingers. They know there are issues.

The lead your aim marker is meant to appear when your ping exceeds 150ms. My in game latency consistently hovers around 27ms, yet I get that sign almost all the time. That means there is a connection issue somewhere.

You tell me my accuracy is the problem, have a chocolate bar...
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