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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 07-Sep-10 16:58:13
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Sending a broadband connection wireless to another property


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Being without a decent internet connection and with no real alternatives on offer, I would like to look into the possibility of a wireless link from one property to another.

The idea is to set up a wireless link from property A, a house in the town with access to 7mbps ADSL broadband or 50mbps Virgin Media broadband. This is then to be sent wirelessly 1.6/1.8 miles to property B (where I live) to make use of broadband.

My issues however;

Property A and B cannot be seen from either property.
Property A is surrounded by a housing estate
Property B is not so surrounded, but there are a fair amount of trees visible in the direction of property A

Will it be possible to set up a wireless link between the two properties? The idea is not to access another network, but simply for property A to provide a broadband connection to property B.

What equipment can be used and what licensing policies are there that are required?

Also, if using the ADSL route, I would be interested in trying out BT Vision. Would BT vision work at property B with the link sent over from property A?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 07-Sep-10 17:07:59
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http://www.solwise.co.uk/networkingwireless.htm

Some kit you can use, and they do have experience deploying it, so may answer questions.

Without line of sight, it is very much a case of try it and see.

If you can sustain a reliable 2Mbps stream, then BT Vision may well work

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 07-Sep-10 19:33:56
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For BT Vision to work you will need to have a BT Hub in property A, and an Ethernet connection to property B, as powerlan connectors are used to connect the Vision box to the Hub. No idea what bandwidth you'll need between the properties to make this viable though.

PS don't forget you also need Freeview reception at property B.


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Standard User bookey
(experienced) Tue 07-Sep-10 20:17:36
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
Property A and B cannot be seen from either property.
Property A is surrounded by a housing estate
Property B is not so surrounded, but there are a fair amount of trees visible in the direction of property A


What is the geography between the two points?
Any buildings / hills that are a lot higher than one of the locations?
If you are ok posting full postcodes we might be able to help more.
As Andrew said Solwise are a good choice for the kit and advice.
Also is ADSL at location B that unsuitable?

Paul
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 07-Sep-10 20:34:48
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BT Vision should work over wireless, i.e. if someone has used a wireless ethernet bridge in their hose rather than powerlan connectors this would be the same.

Bandwidth is about that of the video streams, which for SD material is around 2Mbps.

The use of the powerlan connectors by BT engineers is nothing magical, they just solve a common problem, that main TV is no where near the Home Hub in many homes.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 07-Sep-10 23:43:00
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Between the two points it is flat land, there are no hills or large buildings, just houses, trees and fields.

Unfortunately ADSL is a no go at location B, due to the fact it is too far away from the telephone exchange and no engineer has been able to receive a signal (they have been out at 8 different times on different ADSL orders over the past 10 years)
Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 08-Sep-10 13:39:03
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You can get a trial version of radio path calculation software and stick in the appropriate info and see what it says.

Bar physical obstructions like hills and properties, the biggest issue with point to point links is trees. Excluding the fact they keep on growing, the different seasons also produce issues, in winter you may have no problems as there are no leaves and the tree is dormant but once weather warms up, the tree is no longer dormant and starting produce foliage they make a great barrier.

Dave

Edited by Rockh (Wed 08-Sep-10 20:45:00)

Standard User MHC
(legend) Wed 08-Sep-10 17:57:59
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Without line of sight, it will be near impossible.

Using 802.11 would need 20+dB of gain over teh legal maximum and that would be very directional.

Microwave ? possible but would need expensive equipment and a licence.





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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Wed 08-Sep-10 18:03:29
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In reply to a post by Rockh:
You can get a trial version of radio path calculation software and stick in the appropriate info and see what it says.

Bar physical obstructions like hills and properties, the biggest issue with point to point links is trees. Excluding the fact they keep on growing, the different seasons also produce issues, in winter you may have no problems as there are no leaves and the tree is dormant but once weather warms up, the tree is no longer dormant and starting produce foliage they make a great barrier.
Fixed the link.

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Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 08-Sep-10 20:44:34
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Cheers, could have sworn I'd checked it, hey ho smile

Dave

Edited by Rockh (Wed 08-Sep-10 20:45:35)

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