Local newspaper item in N Wales

I spotted an item in the local newspaper saying BT were introducing "high speed broadband" to some of the exchanges to me, namely Colwyn Bay, Abergele, Prestatyn and Llanwrwst.
It says-
"Colwyn Bay residents are among 25,000 homes set to benefit from faster broadband next spring as one of 18 communities included in the plan for BT's next generation of broadband. New copper lines will offer up to double the speeds currently available.
Speeds of up to 20mbits will be available" (paraphrased long quote, Colwyn bay Pioneer,5/10/11).
screenshot of item
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7997/baybroadband...

As far as I can see the only thing that has changed is that my exchange has a 21CN date of May 2012. AFAIK thats an exchange upgrade isn't it, not a cable laying excercise-
Is this what they are likely to be talking about? If so I dont think it will make a great difference to me with a 48db line!

Edited by chrimbow (Sun 09-Oct-11 13:58:08)

Without seeing if there is an online version, from what you say the reporter and presumably the editor haven't a clue what they are talking about. Even to the extent of mentioning NGA.

imageshack
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7997/baybroadband...

or here you go, page 19
http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.a...

Edited by chrimbow (Sun 09-Oct-11 13:24:26)

I think this is referring to the introduction of ADSL2+ by BT Wholesale at the exchanges.

Thanks - total garbage .

In reply to a post by New_Londoner:

I think this is referring to the introduction of ADSL2+ by BT Wholesale at the exchanges.

Precisely.

That is not Next Generation Access, and is unlikely to involve any new copper.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

That is not Next Generation Access, and is unlikely to involve any new copper.

Apart from that in the millions of pennies being spent

It�s sad, very likely you have LLU on your exchange already and in some areas in south Wales who are on the same list have full VM services.

I emailed BBC Wales who ran this over week ago regarding misleading reporting as yet, I have no reply. However I received an apology from BTs Senior Media Relations Manager in Wales, with regards to inventing new counties in Wales, within one hour.


http://www.btplc.com/news/Articles/ShowArticle.cfm?A...

TBH, Im none the wiser! What are we actually getting "upgraded! to?

21cn. Go to this site to see what is available-

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search

To the right of page after you have put in your postcode you will see if there is LLU presence which is similar performance to 21cn

Abergele Colwyn Bay Central & Prestatyn have TT & Sky LLU already.

Edited by NilSatisOptimum (Sun 09-Oct-11 18:22:21)

I noticed Sky LLU went in a few months back but at 48db I dont know if there would be an advantage for me tbh

Post deleted by NilSatisOptimum

21CN is next generation, as is WBC, as is FTTC, i.e. it is a phrase that means nothing.

General consensus is next gen refers to ADSL2+ in terms of BT, since ADSL is current generation. Fibre is superfast broadband or just sees explicit mention of fibre.

BT targeted welsh press with PR on the ADSL2+ upgrades, irony being many exchanges already have ADSL2+ via alt-net providers

That's a bit confusing Andrew, as you seem to be drawing a distinction between "Next Generation" and "Next Generation Access".

As far as BT is concerned NGA is FTTx. For example

What is NGA? NGA stands for �next-generation access�. Broadly speaking, it means internet that uses next-generation optic fibres, rather than the copper wires which most broadband users in the UK use at the moment

from this page. It then goes on to describe the types of NGA and specifically refers to FTTP and FTTC.

(Edit - removed "DELETED" from the Subject).

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 10-Oct-11 11:45:25)

ADSL2+ is the next generation of xDSL
Fibre is the nest generation of access technology after copper

In short NEXT GENERATION is not a technology definition, but a marketing/corporate phrase.

In short saying NextGen is not enough.