adsl max premium ping

Im going to be changing to xilo adsl max premium soon and wanted to know if anyone knows the kind of ping times i should expect

same as what ya get now unless they do fastpath then it will be about half what ya get now

that's a shame i really thought it would be significantly better oh well at least i will have a better upload

I was on XILO's Office 40 package for a while.

My ping was around 26-30ms.

Now I'm on Pro 24 I get around 19-24ms.

You're not likely to see less than that on an ADSL connection.

In reply to a post by SC0TTISH:

Im going to be changing to xilo adsl max premium soon and wanted to know if anyone knows the kind of ping times i should expect

Who is your current ISP and what ping times do you get just now?

Depends where you are

We get 14ms in Sheffield and I know some of our customers get 7-9ms in London!

Matt

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So what?

In reply to a post by uno:

Depends where you are

We get 14ms in Sheffield and I know some of our customers get 7-9ms in London!

Matt

im with virgin media adsl and get 30ms

In reply to a post by SC0TTISH:

that's a shame i really thought it would be significantly better oh well at least i will have a better upload

What made you think that you could change the speed of light? Money can buy a lot but cannot change the laws of physics.

I think you might improve on 30ms. It does depend on the ISP as well as the system and location. Virgin Media ADSL is not recommended.

Which exchange are you on? Aprrentice asked, and you didn't say . The best for us is the link to what this checker says.

In reply to a post by MHC:

Money can buy a lot but cannot change the laws of physics.

Our partial knowledge of those laws can change though. That usually requires a lot of money.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

I think you might improve on 30ms. It does depend on the ISP as well as the system and location. Virgin Media ADSL is not recommended.

Which exchange are you on? Aprrentice asked, and you didn't say . The best for us is the link to what this checker says.

this is my exchange http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/WSNEC

In reply to a post by uno:

Depends where you are

We get 14ms in Sheffield and I know some of our customers get 7-9ms in London!

Matt

sorry one more question will you be able to provide a dynamic ip as i play competitive gaming where host booting is a problem so a static ip isn't a good thing for me

In reply to a post by MHC:

What made you think that you could change the speed of light? Money can buy a lot but cannot change the laws of physics.

What does that have to do with anything?

On a ping to a server 250 miles away it's only going to contribute about 3mSec to the round trip time.

In reply to a post by Toonshorty:

My ping was around 26-30ms.

Now I'm on Pro 24 I get around 19-24ms.

You're not likely to see less than that on an ADSL connection.

Whether ADSL or ADSL2+ my pings have been the same. With interleaving enabled, around 40ms and on fastpath, around 24ms. 400 odd miles from London.

With Zen, the TBB Graph shows me around 9ms min on Fastpath:
My Broadband Ping Fastpath

and about 24ms on Interleaved - which is where I prefer it as I don't gameplay and get about another 500k...
My Broadband Ping Interleaved

The peaks are generally caused by traffic on the line at this end when it's in use. Scheduled uploads can pretty well saturate the line during some nights as you can see.

Not good . About all I can say, to give you hope, is that probably the three worst ISPs to be with are VM ADSL, Sky Connect and O2 Access. Some part of your xilo connection will be better. With luck, every part!

Do you have to host the router stats on your local PC, or can it be done with scheduled uploads to a remote web server?

In reply to a post by camieabz:

Do you have to host the router stats on your local PC, or can it be done with scheduled uploads to a remote web server?

I use an existing backup utility (SyncBackPro) to upload whatever RouterStats file(s) I need every so often to my remote hosting site. I used to upload loads of graphs once a minute when I was REIN chasing and wanted a remote view available from another property but now just do one every 10 mins. I did have a public web server running from here once (there is one built in to RouterStats) but got hacked so gave up on that idea as too much agro...

Ta. Yes, I've been less than keen to host it locally for that reason. I'll look into regular upload solutions.

Not something we offer i'm afraid.

It's something we've thought about but there just isn't enough demand for us to set aside a pool of addresses for it.

Matt

Have you misread the question Matt? Or do I have a misconception.

He wants dynamic, specifically not fixed. You are saying you only offer fixed IP addresses? Surely that is more expensive than dynamic with a few fixed?

In reply to a post by uno:

Not something we offer i'm afraid.

It's something we've thought about but there just isn't enough demand for us to set aside a pool of addresses for it.

Matt

so there will be no way for me to change my ip address then ?

Nope, I read it correctly

It's much more efficient for us to use static addressing and would be a waste to set a pool aside for dynamic addresses that are rarely requested.

There are no differences in cost for us, we pay our yearly RIPE fees and they're the same regardless if we static or dynamically assign.

Matt

Unfortunately, no.

If you need a dynamic address, or one that changes regularly, we're not going to be the ISP for you i'm afraid.

Matt

OK, thanks Matt.

It's probably bigger ISPs where dynamic is cheaper. The reason being, as I'm sure you know but a few readers may not, they can safely greatly reduce the number they reserve.

I wouldn't say cheaper.. especially taking in to consider the changes in the RIPE charging scheme for this year.

There are the bigger/cheaper providers that offer dynamic as default and sometimes don't offer the ability for static but there are also some that offer static for a cost.

In the days of dialup, RIPE suggested the use of dynamic addressing as this was far more efficient due to the nature of such connectivity but now with always on, permanently connected, static addresses make much more sense.

We've never offered dialup and decided to only offer static addresses, for no additional cost - why should you have to pay for a single static address, or be on a higher package for one?

Matt

In reply to a post by uno:

Nope, I read it correctly

It's much more efficient for us to use static addressing and would be a waste to set a pool aside for dynamic addresses that are rarely requested.

There are no differences in cost for us, we pay our yearly RIPE fees and they're the same regardless if we static or dynamically assign.

Matt

could i simply buy 4 static ip's then and change between then if i am being ip flooded

In reply to a post by SC0TTISH:

Im going to be changing to xilo adsl max premium soon and wanted to know if anyone knows the kind of ping times i should expect

Unless it triggers a retrain on your line (and you have interleaving at present), it won't make any difference unless you are routed differently.

The factors which influence ping mostly on UK ADSL connections are: Interleaving on the Line and ISP Routing.

What people are saying about how far you are away from the server (As long as it is in the UK) doesn't really make much of a difference.

For instance, back in 2010 before IPSC was rolled out on my connection, I used to get a 13ms ping to the BBC and a 12ms ping to my exchange so it took around a millisecond to get from the exchange to the BBC.

Now in 2012 on 21CN, I have an 8ms ping to the exchange, and an 17-18ms ping to the BBC due to new routing. Both the old connection and new connection was/is on FAST.

Exchange to the internet is still mostly fiber, so it isn't a limitation there.


As I said it won't make a difference to your ping unless you have more priority on a congested DSLAM, your line is switched to FAST or you are routed differently.

How do I find the ping time to my actual exchange when I ping the BBC or any other website ftm?

Confused

I don't think you can. He might mean his ISP gateway.

In reply to a post by tbailey2:

With Zen, the TBB Graph shows me around 9ms min on Fastpath:
My Broadband Ping Fastpath

and about 24ms on Interleaved - which is where I prefer it as I don't gameplay and get about another 500k...
My Broadband Ping Interleaved

yeah depends on luck of the draw with where isp's POP is as well as isp congestion levels.

eg. on a BT wholesale isp BT's pop is in birmingham for me so it actually has to travel away from london before going to london.

However on easynet there is a POP in my city which has a direct route to london, so when I was on ukonline I had excellent latency. This should also be the case when I go to sky FTTC.

Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 11-Oct-12 00:07:03)