FTTC self install?

Is there a self-install FTTC option yet. I.E no engineer visit required to the property (just the cabinet)?

I'm also wondering if I could put the VDSL modem in the communal utility cupboard where the BT line comes in because from there it is standard Ethernet. (could use PoE to get power to the modem). Don't need the phone line to work for calls, which it wouldn't set-up like that. Would BT have a problem with that???

If you had looked in the Fibre forum you would have immediately seen this current thread.

Re putting the modem there, should be OK as the line goes there anyway. "PoE" for the power, what's that? If you mean Power Over Ethernet, I have my doubts.

If you already have extension phones they will continue to work.

My bad.

The phone line wouldn't work coz it would no longer be connected back to my flat, the Ethernet cable would be carrying power and Ethernet and therefore wouldn't be used to carry a phone signal as well. Although might be possible of only 100Mbps Ethernet and only one pair used for power and then the remaining pair used for the phone...

Would I gain anything by doing this and reducing the line length (to the modem) by about 10 meters?

Tempted to order FTTC on the lifts emergency line ... then I don't need to pay BT line rental ... Lol!

The lift emergency line is probably a special line that would not be allowed bb ordered on it - ah well, can't win them all.

The extra 10 metres if it is cat5 or better will probably make no appreciable difference. POE for the modem could probably be done but you would almost certainly need some electronics gubbins to do it as the modems won't do it by themselves - normally I have seen it the other way where phones have special injectors to power them using mains to POE conversion).

EDIT: Not sur ebut something like this

Edited by ian72 (Mon 31-Dec-12 15:10:42)

FYI you just use a PoE splitter for non-poe devices.

I'm probably close enough to the cabinet for it to not make a difference, predicted line speed is 78.5Mbps ... but it has not been installed yet.

That's a shame. Although with the modem in the utility cupboard I could share the connection and cost with another resident...

In reply to a post by 5km:

Although with the modem in the utility cupboard I could share the connection and cost with another resident...

How so? Any more than you could with it elsewhere.

Am I right in thinking you already have the ethernet cable in place? For ADSLx?

Yes, each flat has Ethernet from the cupboard that currently has only one pair used for the phone line. I could just put in a managed switch to share the connection with others, better yet a Mikrotik router.

See this pic

Looks like about 5km of wires there .

Well going by that pic i would say thats the main DP to your block of flats and then cat5 cable to each flat , as such you should not be touching it at all you bad boy ! LOL

Seconded Bert, that's the DP sho' 'nuff.

AFAIK the modem is powered from an AC Adapter as ADSL Modems and Modem/routers are so could not take power via the RJ45 socket which is what I think you are proposing?

PoE application is also fairly limited at present, it'll power some access points but its main use is IP phones or IP cameras. (we've just converted to IP phones at work that are completely powered from a PoE switch)

Edited by techguy (Mon 31-Dec-12 22:14:35)

I think he is thinking of this sort of thing feeding the modem instead of a WAP.

Perhaps he could then feed power a router/switch from another tenant's line, and then other tenants' broadband from the switch.

Nasty!

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 31-Dec-12 22:33:56)

Ah right, agreed, looks a nasty prospect.

Especially if anyone runs a badly managed P2P session. (Assuming a successful connecting up, which is what both our "nasty"s were meaning).

Probably well outside most non-business T & Cs as well.

Edited by RobertoS (Mon 31-Dec-12 22:36:30)

Not sure BT would be very happy with you powering their modem with anything other than the supplied PSU which if you do POE you would be. Also, you would have to see what power requirements the modem has as POE may not be able to deliver enough juice.

I would be amazed if BT would be happy with that as an installation (and if you had any line problems they could potentially blame it on poor power supply to the modem).