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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 17:53:56
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Boost in connection speed.


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Surprised to see that my Mum's ADSL connection is now connected at the fastest speed it ever has. The attenuation has also dropped from 72db to 69db @300khz.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28466011/dmtm20130113_1735.png

I wonder what has been changed.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 17:57:53
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Has the modulation changed from ADSL2 to g.dmt?
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(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 18:01:31
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No it is still standard ADSL (992.1 Annex A) always has been.

It's with eclipse and they won't let us migrate to ADSL2+ unless we sign up to a new contract at a higher price (even though 21CN wholesale is cheaper to provide).


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 18:14:15
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ADSL2+ won't work at that attenuation.
Has the line gone down for a while, indicating the E-side or D-side pairs have been changed?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 18:22:14
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There was a disconnect on the 6th Jan - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/e33dc75f036...

Another on the 7th - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/82a5265461c...

Both at times I wouldn't expect a BT engineer to be working at the PCP, could have been a change within the exchange but doesn't really look like enough down time.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 13-Jan-13 19:12:33
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There's something very strange about the minimum and average latencies there. It drops almost imperceptibly after the first disconnection but apparently has jumped considerably one minute later - at the start of the 7th.

Independent of that, has the router been moved at their house?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 19:37:27
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Nothing has changed with regards to the set-up of the router, it''s location, the cable or anything else within the property.

Here's a ping graph for a day when no one was home (so no usage causing spikes in ping) - http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/4a1e4a44c6c... (This was before the higher sync)

I see what you mean about the ping changing at midnight, I had to flick between the two days to notice it.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 22:23:44
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I found an old DMT image from when I used to run with a 3~3.5db SNR Margin.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28466011/olddmt.png

This was one of the best speeds I'd had before with a 6dB SNR Margin it would normally run at around ~1200kbps, usually just enough to give a 1Mbps line profile.

The biggest difference between now and then is the recent use of some lower tones (frequencies) for the downstream. It also has some higher tones and generally more bits per tone over all.

Have BT changed the frequencies they use slightly?
Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 13-Jan-13 22:25:47
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Is it in an FTTC enabled area?
Maybe more and more ADSL customers moving over to FTTC is reducing cross-talk from the ADSL lines which still go all the way back to the exchange?
Your Mum has certainly gained a few extra frequencies AND the signal strength of the lower ones has increased, too.

EDIT: There is one very noticeable difference - see the closed gap between upstream & downstream frequencies?

Ade

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Edited by adebov (Sun 13-Jan-13 22:28:45)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 22:31:13
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No FTTC but there are some people with Fixed Wireless (Vfast) or FTTH (the failed, but still running ICS project) now. So a good number of people might have ditched their ADSL service.

That might have made a difference but I think unlikely.
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(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 22:32:21
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Yes, the number of tones has increased, also the minimum SNR has increased.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 13-Jan-13 22:32:29
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The attenuation has also dropped from 72db to 69db @300khz.

Colder weather ?

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Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 13-Jan-13 22:34:13
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Yes, the number of tones has increased, also the minimum SNR has increased.

Coupled with the apparent higher signal strength and the additional tones getting through (at the top end) because of that, and there you have it...a higher than previous speed.
This is also not the only post on here reporting of unusually high ADSL connection speeds.

Ade

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DL Sync 80Mbps
UL Sync 20Mbps
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 22:38:10
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But it happened before it had got cold (again).

If just down to cold weather then it won't last and as soon as it's warm again the speed will drop. Well I guess I'll find out when it warms up.

* no I didn't just edit my post.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 13-Jan-13 23:14:19
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Paraphrase - To have one typo can be regarded as a misfortune. To have two identical ones looks like carelessness. wink

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 13-Jan-13 23:21:31
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Paraphrase - To have one typo can be regarded as a misfortune. To have two identical ones looks like carelessness. wink


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(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 23:22:35
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Lack of proof reading while writing a reply in the middle of playing a game on my Xbox in a darkly lit room. Lol.

Look at my face ... do I look like I care.
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(deleted) Sun 13-Jan-13 23:23:24
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Think he is warming to me wink
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 13-Jan-13 23:24:59
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But do either of you know what I am paraphrasing, without looking it up or googling key words in it?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 13-Jan-13 23:36:55
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You win an Important Oscar!

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 14-Jan-13 00:59:22
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Shhhh smile. I can see you have it.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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