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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 14-Nov-19 09:22:40
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Do different providers use different gear at exchane?


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In past with BT i got 17Mbps real speed
With NowTV it get 11.5Mbps real speed

my question is do different providers use different equipment at the exchange to account for this?

Or different actual connections?

Or some other reason?

This is a consistant difference, regardless of time/congesstion etc

EO line, 1.3km from exchange

Thanks
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-19 09:30:33
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This is possibly answered in my response to your other post - you could have asked both questions in the same post.

It is possible that the router you are now using does not work so well with the equipment in the cabinet. If you post the cabinet and exchange here then some other clever people will be able to tell you what equipment is in the cab and which routers are likely to work best with it.
Standard User rowter
(newbie) Thu 14-Nov-19 09:37:30
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Re: Do different providers use different gear at exchane?


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In reply to a post by ian72:
This is possibly answered in my response to your other post - you could have asked both questions in the same post.

It is possible that the router you are now using does not work so well with the equipment in the cabinet. If you post the cabinet and exchange here then some other clever people will be able to tell you what equipment is in the cab and which routers are likely to work best with it.


Its a EO line so likely hes on Sky LLU moved from BTwholesale, the speed though hes quoting are actual throughput rates no sync rates so it is more likely a capacity problem.


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-19 09:38:22
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Re: Do different providers use different gear at exchane?


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Surely that�s ADSL he�s describing ?

So yes, different exchange kit, different back haul, different profiles.... AND a different router.

Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-19 09:40:13
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Oops - sorry, got so buried in VDSL that didn't properly consider the post. Even so, the difference could just be in the router and a different router could hold better speeds.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:11:48
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The exchange im on is Kingsland Green

Exchange code‎: ‎CLKLG Postcode‎: ‎E82LA

im using the latest Now Tv hub - same as Sky I believe. Dual Band, Gigabit ethernet, 2 ports.

EO line so no cabinet.

Yes Now TV is part of Sky. BT previously.

Contract ending soon - so wondering if worth going back to BT if exchange gear is different which seems like it is and worth trying.

Thanks

james
Standard User rowter
(newbie) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:20:05
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I'm not sure what equipment sky use in the exchanges and normally their capacity is very good.

BTwholesale use several different makes of MSAN often in the same exchange so it will be pot luck what make you end up on.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:25:39
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Thanks

Worth a punt by sound of it.

I will also try a different hub - I have my previous BT hub4 so will swap that out

Thanks

james
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:26:02
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Have you any router stats you can post please ?

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:31:51
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Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collision Pkts Tx b/s Rx b/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 16834980 26132328 0 0 0 24:59:25
LAN Up 20765762 15897780 2 0 0 37:54:12
WLAN (2.4 GHz) Up 269838 4199 0 0 0 37:52:50
WLAN (5 GHz) Up 2267352 1556493 0 2 1 37:52:48
Broadband Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed (Kbps) 15356 1105
Line Attenuation (dB) 31.0 19.5
Noise Margin (dB) 4.0 7.0
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:34:13
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Hmm 15.3 is somewhat better than the speed you mentioned in your first post. Can you do a couple of speed tests on this site and post links to them as there could be something else also impacting your speeds rather than just connection.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:37:06
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15.3 is from router. so thats the raw speed

current speed just tested with speedtest 12.7.

So that seems reasonable?


james
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:38:50
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Is that a speedtest on this site? If so you can post a link, if not then please do one here and post a link as the graph can tell a story that the numbers don't.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 14-Nov-19 10:44:19
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https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/15737280107...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 14-Nov-19 11:18:07
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Once you allow for overheads the 12.7 Mbps if not that bad, if you were seeing 17 Mbps before either using one of a number of testers that can report 20% higher than reality or modem was syncing a lot higher - which is possible.

If you see 5 Mbps sometimes, then need to look at what else is using your connection, big clue is whether there is a change in the latency shown during the test.

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Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 14-Nov-19 14:20:34
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I get a lower speed from Shell than I did with NowTV, despite using same router, so I don't think this is the answer. wink


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - Shell Energy BB via Technicolor TG582N

Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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(staff) Thu 14-Nov-19 14:43:52
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Not everyone has the exact same problem

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Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 14-Nov-19 15:21:24
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I agree, but I have a similar problem to the OP which doesn't seem to be down to the router, so I would think this is a red herring. wink


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - Shell Energy BB via Technicolor TG582N

Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 14-Nov-19 15:51:25
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There are a number who have had similar problems that were improved by a different router. There may also be nothing that can be improved as it could just be the difference in how Sky operate as they are LLU.
Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 14-Nov-19 16:17:15
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I used the router supplied by New Call Telecom on my NowTV line, so you aren't restricted to the Sky router. wink I've also used it on several other ISPs, so I think the problem is more likely to be the exchange, as the OP enquired.


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - Shell Energy BB via Technicolor TG582N

Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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