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(deleted) Wed 08-Jan-20 09:48:08
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Network Rearrangement Options


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Hi,

We have a commercial Site that's on an EO line to the chesterfield exchange and gets 12/1 down/up on ADSL, the road its on (Stonegravels Lane) has an FTTC cabinet (cab 26) about 180m away from site with Telegraph poles near by that feed the site its self. The cabinet serves Sheffield Road.

we did order a new FTTC line from Zen who checked and confirmed VDSL was available at speeds you would expect being next to the cabinet, hoping that the new line would be run from the cabinet rather than a new EO connection but when the line was installed the VDSL order was canceled on openreaches system the same day. The PTSN line went in fine but is connected as EO when you plug the number into DSL checker.

We asked Zen about it and they happily canceled the charges due to not being able to supply a the quoted service, at the time we asked if they could arrange a quote for a line rearrangement but no one there knew of a way to do it.

Whats the best route for contacting Openreach about getting a rearrangement quote? and does anyone know of any instances where its occured outside of BDUK or Fibre First. We're quite happy to pay several thousand as the site doesn't justify a leased line's ongoing costs but would benefit hugely from FTTC, Especially on the upload. Virgin are on Sheffield road but don't go onto Stone gravels lane unfortunately.

Thanks.
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(staff) Wed 08-Jan-20 10:26:18
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Re: Network Rearrangement Options


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https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/community-...

Is the most obvious way but more likely to be looking at FTTP rather than VDSL2 these days

A lot will hinge on whether its just you, or can you get others involved

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(deleted) Thu 09-Jan-20 06:56:19
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Thanks, i hadn't really considered a CFP as i always saw it as more of a residential focused program. The stumbling block will probably be the low number of business on the lane most of which are small traders i cant see wanting to contribute much at all.


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(deleted) Thu 09-Jan-20 07:49:45
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You may want to re-consider a leased line because costs have come down massively in recent years, especially in urban areas. For example, a symmetric 100/100Mbs service can be installed for as low as ~ £200/m with ZERO install costs on a 3 year term from TalkTalk Business. Your business may also qualify for a £2500 Gigabit voucher towards the costs, though these go towards install costs rather than monthly service charges - in which case it might be cheaper to go for the 12 month option and use the GBV to pay off the install costs.

At the end of the min term, you simply take out a new contract - leased line costs will continue to fall - or you may find Openreach have upgraded your area to native FTTP.

Have a peek here to get an idea of leased line costs

www.linebroker.co.uk

https://linebroker.co.uk/funding.php
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(deleted) Mon 13-Jan-20 06:57:42
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I did look at leased line prices but they just aren't economical for the site, we use them a lot more throughout the country for main sites especially with the TT prices drops in recent years. last one i saw there was scarcely any difference in cost between 10/10 and 100/100.

Here £40 per month FTTC would do fine, even if the associated costs from any funded arrangement might triple those costs over time it still works out cheaper
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