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Standard User kopnut
(newbie) Fri 25-Nov-22 10:03:57
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Vpn On Or Off When running a BQM


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Hi All, don't know if I am in the right place to put this query, if not, my apologies beforehand.,I am new to this forum and just finding my feet with regards the internet world. I am trying to work out why my broadband is dropping out all the time so I am trying to create a bqm graph which hopefully will tell me where the fault lies, that's the crux of the matter, do I turn my vpn off to create a bqm graph or leave it on ?, hope this makes sense to all, thanks in advance for reading.

Edited by kopnut (Fri 25-Nov-22 10:05:53)

Standard User andynormancx
(committed) Fri 25-Nov-22 10:42:04
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Re: Vpn On Or Off When running a BQM


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The BQM knows nothing about your VPN. It is just pinging your router's public IP address, the VPN is not involved at all.

So whether your VPN is connected or not will make no difference (assuming you are uploading/downloading similar amounts in each case).
Standard User kopnut
(newbie) Fri 25-Nov-22 10:48:15
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The BQM knows nothing about your VPN. It is just pinging your router's public IP address, the VPN is not involved at all.

So whether your VPN is connected or not will make no difference (assuming you are uploading/downloading similar amounts in each case).


Thanks AndyNormancx for your reply, makes sense now you put it that way wink


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Standard User XGS_Is_On
(member) Fri 25-Nov-22 12:59:40
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In reply to a post by andynormancx:
The BQM knows nothing about your VPN. It is just pinging your router's public IP address, the VPN is not involved at all.


Start the BQM while connected to the VPN it'll be running to the VPN, not the router, as by default it uses the IP the connection comes from.
Standard User XGS_Is_On
(member) Fri 25-Nov-22 13:07:08
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Hi. See my reply below. Given you're new to the Internet world why are you using a VPN all the time? It is probably slowing down your connection and some of the sales pitches are full of misinformation.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 25-Nov-22 13:32:45
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Hi. See my reply below. Given you're new to the Internet world why are you using a VPN all the time? It is probably slowing down your connection and some of the sales pitches are full of misinformation.
+100. Much of the marketing is aimed at the USA with very different legals.

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User kopnut
(newbie) Fri 25-Nov-22 13:44:44
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In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:
Hi. See my reply below. Given you're new to the Internet world why are you using a VPN all the time? It is probably slowing down your connection and some of the sales pitches are full of misinformation.


Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?
Standard User XGS_Is_On
(member) Fri 25-Nov-22 15:05:46
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Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?


Tom Scott puts it way better than I can smile

https://youtu.be/WVDQEoe6ZWY
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 25-Nov-22 16:55:16
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Tom Scott puts it way better than I can smile
https://youtu.be/WVDQEoe6ZWY

Great video, bookmarked - thanks!

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User andynormancx
(committed) Fri 25-Nov-22 20:01:55
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This is a good point, it has been a while since a created a new BQM, it will of course default to the VPN's IP address when you create it unless you change it.

One wants to make sure you are not using the VPN when setting up the BQM, unless you change the address to your own IP address when creating it. Otherwise the BQM will just be testing the connection to the VPN, which is unlikely to be what was wanted.
Standard User kopnut
(newbie) Sat 26-Nov-22 09:58:39
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In reply to a post by kopnut:
Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?


Tom Scott puts it way better than I can smile

https://youtu.be/WVDQEoe6ZWY


Excellent video, eye opening to say the least - thanks.
Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Sat 26-Nov-22 10:57:23
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In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:
In reply to a post by kopnut:
Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?


Tom Scott puts it way better than I can smile

https://youtu.be/WVDQEoe6ZWY


Excellent video, eye opening to say the least - thanks.


. . . and after all these years of not daring to do any internet banking on a hotel WiFi . . .
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sun 27-Nov-22 12:37:55
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In reply to a post by kopnut:
Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?


Tom Scott puts it way better than I can smile

https://youtu.be/WVDQEoe6ZWY

Some great myth busting...with good humour. 👍
Standard User spile
(regular) Mon 28-Nov-22 07:07:12
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In reply to a post by kopnut:
Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?

A vpn server like Wireguard unlike a vpn subscription service is a very sensible way to access an insecure device like a NAS or IP cameras if you are outside the LAN.

Edited by spile (Mon 28-Nov-22 07:09:02)

Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Mon 28-Nov-22 07:23:28
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In reply to a post by kopnut:
Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?

A vpn server like Wireguard unlike a vpn subscription service is a very sensible way to access an insecure device like a NAS or IP cameras if you are outside the LAN.

I don’t think anyone is questioning the value of underlying technology. After all it’s the same technology that allows you to access this website securely and do your online banking without fear of snooping.

What is debatable / questionable is the notion peddled by VPN access subscription services as some sort of general security panacea, that an additional VPN subscription (theirs of course!) ought to be in place for any and all / general internet access.
Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Mon 28-Nov-22 17:17:17
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In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:
In reply to a post by kopnut:
Thanks for the reply XGS_Is_On ,I use a vpn as, I understood, to be an extra layer of security. Is this good ?


Tom Scott puts it way better than I can smile

https://youtu.be/WVDQEoe6ZWY

I just watched his video from today on tidal power. Quite interesting.

However it looks like “poacher has become gamekeeper” from the point of view of VPN access services; today’s sponsor @ 4:08 in is none other than good old Nord VPN!!!

Sshhh better not remind him of what he said 3 years ago 🤣
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