Physical lines inside home

Hi guys, 1st time poster here and not very tech savvy. Recently moved into our new home and have decorated the hall. We’re currently using our phone hotspots as Wi-Fi but obviously want to upgrade to proper broadband. Our hall currently has. An openreach MK3 double socket. Can anyone tell me if this will carry fibre/broadband into our home without the addition of ugly cables running along the skirting boards? And would I have to use BT to avoid this?

I’ve tried asking a few providers but can’t get anything more definitive than “ place an order with us and our engineer will discuss your needs”.

Many thanks in advance,
Paddy

I’m 99.9% sure that , yes, that socket will be made live.

You can order from any service provider who use Openreach to provide to customers.

That socket will provide an FTTC service.

If you're happy to place the router near to this socket, and there's power for it nearby too, then you'll be fine. There's no need to take service from BT. Order your broadband from any of the hundreds of providers who deliver FTTC over Openreach infrastructure, which includes all the big well-known brands.

If this location isn't a good place for wifi coverage, or you just don't want it visible, then you may want to put the router somewhere else. In that case, you'll need to run a cable from the master socket to wherever the router is. A small white cable along the skirting board or even tucked under the edge of the carpet is usually not very visible.

or even tucked under the edge of the carpet is usually not very visible.

Nooooooooooooooooooo.

How many times have I seen this end up going faulty … especially when folk decide to run it across a doorway.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

or even tucked under the edge of the carpet is usually not very visible.

Nooooooooooooooooooo.

How many times have I seen this end up going faulty … especially when folk decide to run it across a doorway.

I can confirm this too.
Kellys many years ago put the cable under the carpet at the door war instead of going round the frame. I was at work at the time so I was unaware of this until 5 years later when mother was in a wheel chair for a few months and it damaged the cable. BT threatened to charge us for the damage, so I told them where to go and pulled up all the cable and replaced it all and done it how it should of been done and it worked great right up to when we got FTTP.

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Paul

I managed to damage a cat5e cable in the same way years ago(ie about 2006)by running it down a hallway carpet and not doing proper cabling

The OP specifically mentioned fibre, so discussion of master sockets and FTTC aren't exactly relevant. If fibre really is being installed he could have the incoming cable and ONT and router placed anywhere within reason.

Can anyone tell me if this will carry fibre/broadband into our home without the addition of ugly cables

The OP specifically mentioned fibre,

No they did not.

In reply to a post by Taras:

I managed to damage a cat5e cable in the same way years ago(ie about 2006)by running it down a hallway carpet and not doing proper cabling

Well you learn by your mistakes. I know I have LOL
I now try to put cables between walls and under the floor.

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Paul

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Can anyone tell me if this will carry fibre/broadband into our home without the addition of ugly cables

The OP specifically mentioned fibre,

No they did not.

Perhaps Paddy will be kind enough to state his intentions - FTTC or FTTP - then there will be no need for argument.

i think

fibre/broadband

was pretty obvious and meant either fttp or fttc......

In reply to a post by cjn:

The OP specifically mentioned fibre,

Ths ISPs have for >10 years called VDSL over copper by the name of "fast fibre" in marketing. Sky, Plusnet, BT, TalkTalk, everyone. The word "fibre" in terms of broadband no longer indicates the technology, just that its "faster" than ADSL. Unless the words "full fibre" are used together, or more specific terms such as FTTP or FTTC.

In reply to a post by Taras:

i think

fibre/broadband

was pretty obvious and meant either fttp or fttc......

If indeed FTTP as available at that address, then that is what should be ordered. Period.

My personal installation was very simple as the customer service point was right on the outside wall of the room where the ONT was fitted. Despite less the 6" of fibre cable involved, the installing engineer made a pigs breakfast of it. My apartment is prewired with structured cabling going back to a patch panel. I linked the output from the ONT into this structured cabling and at the patch panel end my router is located.

Other apartments on the estate required quite lengthy fibre runs to the ONT from the Customer Service Point located outside their internal front door. In each case it is just about invisible to the naked eye as a surface run connection. By the side of the ONT is a box of a similar size to the ONT that converts this "invisible" fibre cable to something more normal with the green plug attached to insert into the ONT. The cost of this work is covered by installation fee, if any, charged by your ISP.

The bottom line is that if your supplied service is FTTC then there will be no engineer visit and the service will be discovered at the master socket where your router will have to be located. If that is an unsatisfactory location then you will need to place an order with Openreach via your ISP for it to be located elsewhere. If you want a phone service, in all probability that would be provided as a VoIP service. This is a subject in itself which has been previously well covered in this forum.

Perhaps Paddy will be kind enough to state his intentions - FTTC or FTTP - then there will be no need for argument.

Yes indeed

I think all of us have replied in a way that doesn't help you..

Firstly go to https://www.openreach.com/

and tell us if you can get full fibre, superfast fibre or standard broadband

The other thing that hasn't been considered is we don't know where the OP is - they could be in an area that has a stop sell for FTTC and only have the option of FTTP. But, until more details around what is available are forthcoming it is guesswork as to whether that socket is of any use.

There are many questions, Ian, hence why i went back and asked the question that needed to be asked.