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Standard User RobertoS
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 12-Jul-08 13:30:01
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WBC 21CN profiling


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Jason of ukfsn has stated that WBC, not just WMBC, will have profiling. sjr has provided this link.

Yuk!

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Standard User SamC
(experienced) Sat 12-Jul-08 13:53:01
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Re: WBC 21CN profiling


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Is this contrary to what you've heard before? This was discussed many moons ago, and mentioned in the news on this site if I remember rightly. Generally speaking it's an improvement over the current profiling system - it's a lot more granular at least.

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Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 12-Jul-08 14:06:32
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Is this contrary to what you've heard before?

Absolutely - hugely disappointed.
We'd been told there were to be many more intermediate profiling steps (rather than the large 0.5Mbps jumps in the current system).
Now we find out the only extra profiling steps are the new ones they're having to implement (because they're above 8Mbps), and then the step size goes even higher (1Mbps).
I wonder what else we'd been told is also now not happening that way?

Ade

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Edited by adebov (Sat 12-Jul-08 14:07:05)


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Standard User RobertoS
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 12-Jul-08 14:28:35
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Re: WBC 21CN profiling


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In reply to:

Is this contrary to what you've heard before?


Yes.

So far as I know only WMBC was mentioned - that being the IPStream Max equivalent. We had no details of the increments.

And as adebov says, we were told there would be a huge number of small steps - not huge 1Mbps steps.

Whether the updating time for a rise is lower I do not know yet - that was another thing we were told.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sat 12-Jul-08 17:22:55
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WBMC and WBC are only slightly different, both have all the exchanges amalgamating traffic to 20 primary nodes, but WBMC then collects from the 20 into one. If the profiling is required between exchanges and primary points then it'll be common to both.

Phil

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Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 12-Jul-08 17:33:26
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If the profiling is required between exchanges and primary points then it'll be common to both.

Which reinforces the position that someone is either telling porkies, or is being fed duff information.
The Entanet resellers have made it quite clear there will be many more profile steps, at much smaller increments than with ADSLmax, yet the link provided in this thread shows that not to be the case.
Someone's got it wrong (or BT have been moving goalposts again), it would be nice to get an opinion from Entanet (or one of their resellers) or A&A, because nobody else is likely to know for sure (other than BT - possibly ).

Ade

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sat 12-Jul-08 17:37:11
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3459-broadband-speeds-never-far-from-the-headlines.html

"The number of profiles is set to increase dramatically meaning the granularity of the IP Profile steps will be a lot smaller than the existing 0.25 and 0.5Mbps. The time for an IP Profile to catch up to line connection speeds will improve, and a lot more historical information will be made available to broadband providers to let them see how a line is performing."

the source linked is a bit apocryphal and also says "The rollout of this service started in May 2008, and could be available to your business right now. "

Phil

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 12-Jul-08 18:05:14
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Initially we were told that the profile stepping would be very fine grained. Then it was later clarified that this would only apply to speeds up to 2Mb and so applies across the board on ADSL MAX and ADSL 2 services and that above that it would as currently is the case for MAX up to 8Mb and then in 1Mb/s steps upwards for ADSL 2+ services.
Standard User adebov
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 12-Jul-08 18:31:11
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Thanks Jason.
You've just convinced me not to make the switch (as the increased profiling steps were the only reason - as I'm getting fed up with a 0.5Mbps profile change every week, when my router drops about 64-128kbps from it's sync speed).
I guess I'll just have to wait until I move house.

Ade

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 12-Jul-08 18:31:38
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Oh dear sounds like BT have been at it again with the spin about a service
Why am i not shocked?
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