Here is how-to FTTP

Many people here in the UK seem to think that installing a FTTP last mile solution is not doable or simply too expensive. I never agreed with that position having seen that FTTP works just fine in other countries.

For example, as part of the nationwide Australian NBN construction, companies in Tasmania are using this tool for quickly digging trenches and laying fibre optic cables. And all of it with hardly any traffic disruption. Better than the construction of bulky cabinets!

Last estimate I recall reading was $25 billion AUS to complete their plan

FTTP in the UK will where possible using existing ducting

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Last estimate I recall reading was $25 billion AUS to complete their plan

FTTP in the UK will where possible using existing ducting

Silly thing is that AU is far more spread out than the UK, population density often being quoted as an issue even though the UK is in many areas very favourable, and many of the cost 'estimates' for the UK appear to be aimed towards being as expensive as possible rather than looking at ways to avoid costs.

As I understand it also the Australian plan is not aimed at 100% coverage with FTTP?

In reply to a post by JNeuhoff:

Many people here in the UK seem to think that installing a FTTP last mile solution is not doable or simply too expensive. I never agreed with that position having seen that FTTP works just fine in other countries.

For example, as part of the nationwide Australian NBN construction, companies in Tasmania are using this tool for quickly digging trenches and laying fibre optic cables. And all of it with hardly any traffic disruption. Better than the construction of bulky cabinets!

This in theory is good except for 1 little matter - it would most likely cut through all the other pipes/cables under the street/pavement. As we've seen in Edinburgh over the past couple of years since the start of the Edinburgh Tramworks only about 50% of the pipes/cables etc are known about and are marked onto maps. It would only really be of any use in the most modern of developments where the position of the underground services are known

A lot depends on how easy things like wayleave is, it may be simpler in Aus, look at the cabinet issues in Muswell Hill, and the delays people have when BT want to repair a collapsed duct to push more copper pairs through.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

A lot depends on how easy things like wayleave is, it may be simpler in Aus, look at the cabinet issues in Muswell Hill, and the delays people have when BT want to repair a collapsed duct to push more copper pairs through.

Yep wayleave was precisely what I was thinking about. One of those many things that sticking a 50p/month tax on all landlines will do precisely nothing to resolve.

In reply to a post by captain666:

This in theory is good except for 1 little matter - it would most likely cut through all the other pipes/cables under the street/pavement. As we've seen in Edinburgh over the past couple of years since the start of the Edinburgh Tramworks only about 50% of the pipes/cables etc are known about and are marked onto maps. It would only really be of any use in the most modern of developments where the position of the underground services are known

I dunno, it only goes 50cm down max...

In reply to a post by captain666:

...As we've seen in Edinburgh over the past couple of years since the start of the Edinburgh Tramworks only about 50% of the pipes/cables etc are known about...

It's not only the services that are uncharted...

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And a satirical project update. CAUTION/VORSICHT - Contains strong subtitles!

And another...

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In reply to a post by captain666:

This in theory is good except for 1 little matter - it would most likely cut through all the other pipes/cables under the street/pavement. As we've seen in Edinburgh over the past couple of years since the start of the Edinburgh Tramworks only about 50% of the pipes/cables etc are known about and are marked onto maps. It would only really be of any use in the most modern of developments where the position of the underground services are known

I dunno, it only goes 50cm down max...

You ain't seen how shallow some of the pipes in Edinburgh actually are (Also older burial sites - quite a few found) - but I do appreciate that 99% of the time it would be okay. But for the 1% that hit a pipe etc (ie sewer) this wouldn't be good

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In reply to a post by captain666:

...As we've seen in Edinburgh over the past couple of years since the start of the Edinburgh Tramworks only about 50% of the pipes/cables etc are known about...

It's not only the services that are uncharted...

link

link

(For viewing after the 21:00 'watershed')

And a satirical project update. CAUTION/VORSICHT - Contains strong subtitles!

And another...

Sorry,

I didn't see your post before I answered - the grave sites are interesting - I've been going past a them each day going into work. The bones do look in good condition