In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Cripplied in your eyes, but some of us want to wait and see what people who have the product say about it.

I think it's crippled as well. It will work for those who-in my opinion-don't really need the speed anyway. Anyone actually trying to use the full speed is going to run into a brick wall pretty quickly.

I think that where it would do most good is in satellite communities who are in the 3km+ range from their town's exchange. It becomes a 'poor man's' exchange and with relative few people using it maybe the limits wouldn't need to be so draconian. They could limit it to 24Mb/s to match ADSL2 and everyone in the outlying community would be getting the same service as their nearby 'townies' currently have. That's a pretty good solution all told and shouldn't cause BT any more grief.

Edited by Andrue (Tue 26-Jan-10 15:53:25)

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Cripplied in your eyes, but some of us want to wait and see what people who have the product say about it.

I think a large portion of us are fed up with all BT's nonsense promises of what is to come. Probably because whatever has come in the past has been a huge pita.

The name says it all tbh.....'Infinity'??

A few things we can all be certain of are that the bandwidth allowances will be entirely finite, the roll-out will be slow and awkward, the bugs 'infinite', the excuses overflowing, the support woeful and the shareholders will be having a ball.

I can hardly contain myself

Edited by Finguz (Tue 26-Jan-10 16:31:25)

In reply to a post by somerset:

In reply to a post by CARPETBURN:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Cripplied in your eyes, but some of us want to wait and see what people who have the product say about it.

Not in my eyes at all, the small print of the FUP says they may reduce speed.

Standard word to put in surely?

In reply to a post by somerset:

In reply to a post by CARPETBURN:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Cripplied in your eyes, but some of us want to wait and see what people who have the product say about it.

Not in my eyes at all, the small print of the FUP says they may reduce speed.

Standard word to put in surely?

Except for some protocols it isnt a may its a definite (i was being generous but if you must argue).......
http://tinyurl.com/5fbx5c

quote"Because a lot of P2P traffic is not time-critical, e.g., downloading TV programmes or movies for later viewing, we treat P2P traffic differently from time-critical traffic (such as surfing, streaming or internet telephony) and apply speed restrictions to all P2P traffic at peak times."

Bang goes their dolly daydream quote here...
http://tinyurl.com/yzzxuff

which states "...speeds of up to 40Mb and upload speeds of up to 10Mb, you'll be able to do so much more at the same time � and in an instant."

Really im interested how ill get MORE p2p in AN INSTANT if its throttled.

do i even need to rip the quote of......
"Become one of the first to experience the internet's true potential now."

^^^^ Bwahahahaha........ So many places to start on ripping that to shreds. Didnt they say similar nonsense when they launched 8Mb...... Marketting department must be getting old.

Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Jan-10 16:43:37)

In reply to a post by Andrue:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Cripplied in your eyes, but some of us want to wait and see what people who have the product say about it.

I think it's crippled as well. It will work for those who-in my opinion-don't really need the speed anyway. Anyone actually trying to use the full speed is going to run into a brick wall pretty quickly.

Exactly and how anyone, especially staff or even the most supportive BT fan can try to claim otherwise is a mystery when BTs small print can as good as be interpreted as....... We are gonna screw you over if you dare use all that speed for anything, or any content ideal for fibre connections.

Oh dear...I though I'd have a quick look at the 'BT Infinity' ( fail ) website and managed to read 4 lines before I noticed a mistake..

BT Infinity Broadband uses fibre optics to enable the super fast broadband speeds, but as this is a new way of transfering the internet into your home not everyone is able to take advantage of this way of achieving such a high speed, so below you will see comparisons of other fast broadband suppliers.

Comparing against.. BT Infinity upto 40Mb/s uploads and 10bm/s downloads from £19.99 a month

That doesn't read correctly to me.....



It's all going to end in tears

Edit: Then we have the 'compare' page....

http://www.btinfinitybroadband.co.uk/compare-fast-br...

Which doesn't mention Virgin because, presumably, they are actually faster!

Edited by Finguz (Tue 26-Jan-10 16:54:07)

In reply to a post by Finguz:

............
Edit: Then we have the 'compare' page....

http://www.btinfinitybroadband.co.uk/compare-fast-br...

Which doesn't mention Virgin because, presumably, they are actually faster!

No sky listed either who did a fibre trial........ Oh and they need to watch thereself.......

Will soon have to remove BE, as they are going to do bonded ADSL2+ capable of UPTO 48Mb, which will also be capable of faster speeds on the down side than this infinity lark.

Hopefully BT remain asleep and O2 sue them for their wrong claims LOL. What a bunch of tools, very selective comparisson.

The real irony.......
http://www.btinfinitybroadband.co.uk/

look down the right hand side...... Google ads for Virgin and bethere LOL

Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Jan-10 17:21:20)

For a little while I was a starting to feel just a tad concerned and then I remembered I lived in the UK and this is normal

In reply to a post by JNeuhoff:

Who in their right mind would regularly check for updates on your site when it is common knowledge for users in many towns (in fact, roughly half the UK) that BT never intends to upgrade the lines to fibre in these small towns for many many years to come.

Or for that matter the larger towns...

Or for that matter the larger towns...

If Openreach are spending millions training up and tooling people to cable and install FTTC and there is proven demand, I doubt they are going to have those people picking their noses after 2012

FTTC is being done by direct not contract labour.

No sky listed either who did a fibre trial.

Sky are playing hard to get on pricing in my view. They are not going to start blowing any trumpets til they are sure that Openreach has given it's lowest price.

Equally they are not going to watch their punters walk. After all, Sky punters are paying well over the odds for Pay TV and they don't want their punters realising just how much they are weighing out every month for low bitrate repeats.

BT Infinity has made the first move, Sky will follow. Particularly if BT Retail leverage the fibre to ramp up BT Vision with new low price Sky Sports.

Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Jan-10 20:39:48)