ACTA

how will this treat affect us in the UK and if so, when?

seems big brother has gone mad

"ACTA also makes Internet Service Providers legally responsible for any of it's users downloaded content. ACTA gives recording industries more rights to enforce copyrights and officers of the law the right to search any digital device for copyrighted material. Did you pay for the songs on your iPod? Under the new law, that instantly classifies you as a criminal, and the same classification as murderers and rapists. You will get a criminal record. Even if you do not download songs onto your iPod, you will feel the effects as millions, possibly billions of dollars in taxpayer's money will be poured in to catch these "criminals", money that can be used to save lives"

http://www.anti-acta.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Tra...

I'll worry when Youtube gets taken down. That's my only source of music online.

Sounds good though. More bandwidth for the rest of us if those pesky music downloaders get imprisoned.

Did you pay for the songs on your iPod? Under the new law, that instantly classifies you as a criminal

Now that really is draconian.

How does an entry point to a country prove that you paid for the songs? Or that a movie on your machine is allowed to be there. What when your home country allows for CD ripping under fair use, but destination country does not?

At this time its not clear what is hyperbole and what is the reality from what is available publically.

Was that a reply to me or to the thread in general Andrew?

If it's to me I haven't a clue what you mean as I read the first couple of lines of both links and decided it was all gobbledegook. Whatever the actual proposed treaty may say, the info linked to was hardly coherent.

As demonstrated by the quote I gave .

In general - reading in flat

In reply to a post by camieabz:

I'll worry when Youtube gets taken down. That's my only source of music online.

Sounds good though. More bandwidth for the rest of us if those pesky music downloaders get imprisoned.

Says the law breaker watching copyright music videos on youtube LOL

EDIT: Waits for the how do you know its copyrighted music predictable reply

Edited by deleted (Thu 02-Sep-10 17:07:20)

On that basis, the people in a pub using a jukebox with copied CDs are the criminals. Nope.

In reply to a post by camieabz:

On that basis, the people in a pub using a jukebox with copied CDs are the criminals. Nope.

No if anything that would be the pub owners being crims for broadcasting a copyrighted work without the copyright owners permission. and the ones committing the theft of a copyrighted work as they are also the ones that copied it.

Or in your case, The person that uploads the copyrighted work to youtube is the one broadcasting and copying a copyright work, and you as the merry link clicker are the one also re-copying it down your broadband line, to your computer. Sometimes also refered to as diffusion.

Or as they call it in full in copyright land (and this in part is straight from the back of a music cd)
UNAUTHORISED..... copying, editing, exhibition, renting, lending, public performance, diffusion and/or broadcast or any part thereof, is strictly prohibited..

NEXT........ Tut tut bad camieabz, you ACTA criminal you

No if anything that would be the pub owners being crims for broadcasting a copyrighted work without the copyright owners permission. and the ones committing the theft of a copyrighted work as they are also the ones that copied it.

Erm...my sarcasm didn't quite penetrate then.