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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 10-Jan-11 09:52:20
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
Which brings to mind, the scam of payg electricity meters where the people pay a lot more per unit...

To me boxtop.tv looks like capital venture firm, that may burn through capital in the hope that content providers will pay to be on the platform. In the days when advertising on sites paid well it might have, or for content where you pay the provider to view the content it might.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 10-Jan-11 09:52:45
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
SYDR is VDSL they could do full MPF sub-loop unbundling (as Rutland do) and not charge line rental.

3G PAYG requires a computer and a level of capability that a set top box and a TV remote do not.

Phil

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 10-Jan-11 09:55:36
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
Nothing stopping you having 3G direct into a set top box, the little 3G routers show it can be done.

What 3G would struggle at is per per view video, which I suspect is where this is really going to go.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 10-Jan-11 10:00:25
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Nothing stopping you having 3G direct into a set top box


true, but the bandwidth isn't there and SYDR is a VDSL operator.

Phil

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 10-Jan-11 10:03:38
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
payg electricity meters where the people pay a lot more per unit


I thought that got regulated - Npower seem to have the same unit rates for both although the standing charge collection is different (credit tariffs collect it from the first block of unit charges).

Phil

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 10-Jan-11 10:11:40
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
Agreed, the issue will be the voice line rental, and how SYDR get around that, the £8 ish a month for MPF could prove expensive if people don't use the STB much at all, then add on the cost recovery from their network.

I suspect the type of household who are payg mobile and no internet, will have also dumped the telephone line already to save the £12 or so a month for the line rental. Those on the BT social tariffs may have retained it.

In my opinion they would be better off doing a very basic package at say £7 a month which included access to NHS/local gov websites, with a simple 0.5GB allowance, and provide a STB that connects to the TV. Then people would have option to browse other sites within allowance, and top up usage as they wish.

Plusnet (local to SYDR) already offer very cheap broadband in Market 3 areas, so if people aren't buying that, then price of the connection is not the issue, but the thing is using a computer.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 10-Jan-11 10:45:02
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I got another but here tho.

There seems to be currently a targeting of affluent areas on the VDSL rollout whilst this service would be primarily used by people that arent affluent.

Are we sure this is supposed to be the prime purpose of it? or more as someone else said for selling PAYG movies etc.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 10-Jan-11 10:51:06
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Re: PAYG FTTC ?


[re: yarwell] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by yarwell:
SYDR is VDSL they could do full MPF sub-loop unbundling (as Rutland do) and not charge line rental.


You can do this on SYDR.. if you connect with a DR ISP, you can drop your standard voice service/line rental and just have the VDSL over the line. Some of the ISP's provide their own VoiP solutions, others don't..

I'm not certain how it works if the BT service is already dropped but there is a physical connection back to the cab, I'm guessing you can still connect for the standard £75 fee.

I really think this will be used in two potential ways... that is to provide those who can't/don't/won't have a PC in the home. And/Or as I suggested and others picked up on a means to provide premium services to content providers for services such as VoD.

Edited by deleted (Mon 10-Jan-11 10:52:13)

Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 10-Jan-11 11:37:09
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[re: Chrysalis] [link to this post]
 
it's not BT's FTTC rollout it's EU subsidised South Yorks Digital Region.

Phil

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Standard User Chrysalis
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 10-Jan-11 22:49:37
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ahh sorry so this is just one region ok.
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