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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 15-Feb-11 22:56:51
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Re: Can I get interleaving turned off?


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get WinMTR or run MTR to see where the delay is. On a congested ISP you see the ping go up like this

70 ms may be the routing you're taking if it's always that high.

Phil

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 15-Feb-11 23:01:18
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Hi Yarwell, what do you mean by the route I'm taking?

And do you know any MTR applications for Mac? And I can't do the thinkbroadband checker thing as I'm using a dynamic IP.

Thanks again

Jack
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 15-Feb-11 23:07:10
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Re: Can I get interleaving turned off?


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sometimes you get sent via Edinburgh or something, which can add to ping times. Cross channel is not unheard of in some cases due to routing error.

Try mtr from command line on Mac, it works in linux but I don't really do proprietary hardware smile

http://mtr.darwinports.com/ ?

Phil

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 15-Feb-11 23:09:44
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Re: Can I get interleaving turned off?


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Woah - you're a fast replier!

Whenever I do a whois on my IP, it comes up that it's coming from a BT node in Edinburgh & speedtests show my best location as Edinburgh *even though I'm in Northern Ireland*.

Is it possible if you could tell me what to do? I can only go so far when it comes to telecoms and then I'm beat. Do I run a traceroute or ping or something and how do I do mtr?

That site looks confusing

Jack
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 15-Feb-11 23:11:19
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Ping on left is bbc.co.uk
Ping on right is my modem*

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4954/screenshot2011...

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(Unregistered)Wed 16-Feb-11 00:45:51
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NI traffic routes through the edinburgh mux.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 16-Feb-11 07:56:23
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In reply to a post by jdowning640:
I can't do the thinkbroadband checker thing as I'm using a dynamic IP.
Is your IP address genuinely Dynamic, or just specified to be?

What I mean is does it change most times you reconnect, or does it in fact stay the same?

If it doesn't change, there is a chance that if you ignore the message from tbb BQM and just set it up then it will work fine. But when your IP address changes you will lose it, and when some other person, not even a tbb user, gets the previous address it will start up on theirs, which they may not want.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 16-Feb-11 08:33:24
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MTR is a traceroute / ping tool. Can't really help with the details of how to install it from http://mtr.darwinports.com/ as I'm not an OSX user. Someone in the Apple forum here might help.

You use MTR like ping - for example 'mtr www.bbc.co.uk' produces :-

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Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. lns13.inx.dsl.enta.net            0.0%    51   30.8  42.1  30.3 110.1  23.7 2. 188.39.1.9                        0.0%    50   30.7  31.5  30.2  66.0   5.0
 3. te2-2.interxion.dsl.enta.net      0.0%    50   30.7  31.5  30.0  62.3   4.5 4. te2-3.interxion.core.enta.net     0.0%    50   31.3  31.9  30.3  65.1   4.8
 5. te4-2.telehouse-east.core.enta.n  0.0%    50   31.7  32.0  31.0  41.7   1.9 6. te5-1.telehouse-east2.core.enta.  0.0%    50   31.5  32.5  30.2  94.3   8.9
 7. 212.58.238.177                    0.0%    50   31.4  33.3  30.6 122.1  12.9 8. 212.58.238.129                    0.0%    50   30.8  33.1  30.4 130.9  14.1
 9. te12-1.hsw0.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk       0.0%    50   32.0  31.9  31.0  32.9   0.410. 212.58.255.12                     0.0%    50   32.0  32.4  31.3  46.9   2.1
11. bbc-vip012.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk        0.0%    50   32.5  32.0  31.2  32.7   0.4


which allows you to see where the variability is arising.

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 16-Feb-11 13:48:58
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[re: yarwell] [link to this post] 		 
Hi Yarwell, thanks for your reply again.

I couldn't get that mtr working so I done a traceroute. I also tried using a different modem and it still has high ping so that is possibly indicating something wrong with the external network (except the line right next to this faulty one if working ok).

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4217/screenshot2011...

Although it seems everytime I reset the router, it lowers down to 70 and stays there. This happened for both a Linksys WAG354G and a Netgear modem/router.

Jack
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 16-Feb-11 16:37:08
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they seem to have issues

phil@minuet:~$ ping 217.47.106.186
PING 217.47.106.186 (217.47.106.186) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 217.47.106.186: icmp_seq=1 ttl=115 time=47.0 ms
64 bytes from 217.47.106.186: icmp_seq=2 ttl=115 time=46.5 ms
64 bytes from 217.47.106.186: icmp_seq=3 ttl=115 time=47.0 ms

so I can ping the first BT hop on your connection faster than you can ! Points to some oddity in the routing, or traffic management / overload problem.

May be better in the BT Broadband forum. Does dropping the PPP session (disconnect / connect on the Netgear UI) affect ping ?

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
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