In reply to a post by tide:

Right and the review by Ofcom about misleading speeds is nothing like what I am referring to?! Its precisely this setup of speeds in the double digits which confuses people when they think they're getting MB!!

Ofcom are moaning about the use of "up to"

Once again missing the point. The idea that a holiday needs to be the one time when a computer is absent from one's life proves how inundated your tech currently world is. I am talking about freedom of movement, with technical power, on the move. This all requires the advances we are just making now, so we are getting there, but that means then more time in the wild, out of the office. Something done everyday, not just a holiday.

You'll observe the shift to organic technology where the computer is hidden in clothing, closer than you think. The idea is to make things more natural, easier. You must realise this. One hurdle will be to simplify things like how we measure download speeds (or, to make them irrelevant).

Your going on about how young you are, but your talking like an old man, stuck in your chair - its just everything is done quicker and earlier these days. Have more imagination. Its funny as I'm reading this with something I did just prepare on our gas cooker, notice how I didn't reply for about an hour.

All you techies will remain, but the power you had will not, every release of software give some of it to normal people, they will inherit it all one day and you'll be in the minority scratching your heads as to how computer are meant to work.

So where is the word "legislation" like you promised?

That word was meant to come before a certain other, time for a little more homework on your part(s).

Which is in direct relation to misleading speeds advertised, which for the normal consumer will ultimately lead to the measurement used.

In reply to a post by tide:

All you techies will remain, but the power you had will not, every release of software give some of it to normal people

Who writes the software? Who designs the new hardware?

You can't enforce without legislation.

In reply to a post by tide:

That word was meant to come before a certain other

Yeah, right. Wriggle away...

time for a little more homework on your part(s).

Or a little more attention and less hysteria on your part...

In reply to a post by tide:

I was watching a BBC news article today about the speed of broadband and saw a snipped form this website (which I never knew existed) thinking to myself that yes, there is a problem, but no its not the speed. You see its the way in which its measured that confuses me... who the hell knows what a Megabit (Mb) is??

I don't know anybody who measures a file in Kb or Mb, they all do so in Mb e.g. "its a 2 meg file" i.e. its a 2MB file. So, when ISPs say that the connection is 8Mb, they don't mean MB, they mean its actually 1MB!

How the hell is this allowed to go on?!

ref: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12618350

I see your point and it would probably be simpler but at the same time, people using technology need to acquaint themselves with the relevant terminology and standards.

While this whole thread has been an interesting read...I don't see how people can't meet somewhere in the middle.

Say "(up to)* 40Mbit/sec (approx 5MB/sec)"

Not exactly taxing on anyone...just a few extra words. Meanwhile people should be better educated so that they're at least literate in the terms being discussed.

* Hopefully up to terminology dies a quick death.

In reply to a post by tide:

notice how I didn't reply for about an hour.

Weren't you around? I didn't notice.