In defence of my position I sight the future, I cannot run away from it, this session has been useful, almost exhausted of opposing points.

In reply to a post by tide:

I sight the future, I cannot run away from it,

Actually, you can - but you'd have to run very fast. Almost at the speed of light infact...

In reply to a post by huwwatkins:

I feel like I've missed somthing here...

So has everyone else.

Nobody ever reads these threads in their entirety, unless they really care. So, to recap, the issue is that normal people know MB as the measurement of a files size based on files (over 1MB) being labeled universally online and locally (on one's computer) in this manner. Thus the idea of ISPs advertising their broadband speeds in the Mb range alludes common sense, as many are caught out by the fact that 1MB is 8Mb.

That is the real misleading factor in internet advertising, brought about by the current Ofcom irritation with ISPs (fuelled no doubt by either complaints or surveys of confused customers/citizens) rather than the crux of the problem, which you have just read about.

Normal people should not have to divide anything by a factor of eight in order to understand the true advertised speed of a connection.

I pray fibre optics are round the corner.

In reply to a post by tide:

Normal people should not have to use their brain in order to understand the true advertised speed of a connection.

I pray fibre optics are round the corner.

I corrected this for you.

Why you allude to common sense eludes me.

In reply to a post by huwwatkins:

In reply to a post by tide:

Normal people should not have to use their brain in order to understand the true advertised speed of a connection.

I pray fibre optics are round the corner.

I corrected this for you.

Normal people have no idea what speed they are getting, nor do they care.

To most, sometimes the internet is fast, other times it is slow.

*Thank you you for deciphering my previous post, not the most lucid.*

Your concerns regarding the faithfulness of fact, the absolute, is well meaning but increasingly irrelevant in a network of peaks and troughs. One which caters even poorly for those best catered for, at differing times. So there can be no absolute, but as close as it can be calculated, in real world terms, it must be in a form of which people can relate to.

People are people, not computer experts. Which places the onus on you to read the small print, where I expect such details to reside. I am,now, not against, the idea of using Mbits as the measurement if that's what you want, but for most they measure in something which I doubt will be changed.

Its too far gone. Mb is the dinosaur now, that is the last tree to fell.

Believe what you want, this is what I am telling you. If you read anything more into this then I'll have to ignore your posts as a mater of course, I'm only interested in debate on this issue and debate to disgrace my argument.

Which has yet to materialise, to the degree of which it was originally intended - i.e. for the general public as an aid, and with the general public there is a lot of flexibility.

You mean like Microsoft, well then the competition commission is called in. But, alas, in the ISP arena there are no monopolies, anymore.