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In reply to a post by huwwatkins:

In reply to a post by tide:

Normal people should not have to use their brain in order to understand the true advertised speed of a connection.

I pray fibre optics are round the corner.

I corrected this for you.

Normal people have no idea what speed they are getting, nor do they care.

To most, sometimes the internet is fast, other times it is slow.

I agree - although most of the time its more slow than fast where I am!

Common sense is all people want from advertising, the best advertising aimed to deceive will not trump that which advertises to genuinely inform.

Except in a communist environment.

In reply to a post by tide:

I'm only interested in debate on this issue

Not one of your posts has invited debate, they've simply been the statement of someone whose ego is such that his opinion is RIGHT.

Further confirmation of the style.

Edited by billford (Thu 03-Mar-11 01:10:09)

In reply to a post by tide:

Nobody ever reads these threads in their entirety, unless they really care. So, to recap, the issue is that normal people know MB as the measurement of a files size based on files (over 1MB) being labeled universally online and locally (on one's computer) in this manner. Thus the idea of ISPs advertising their broadband speeds in the Mb range alludes common sense, as many are caught out by the fact that 1MB is 8Mb.

That is the real misleading factor in internet advertising, brought about by the current Ofcom irritation with ISPs (fuelled no doubt by either complaints or surveys of confused customers/citizens) rather than the crux of the problem, which you have just read about.

Normal people should not have to divide anything by a factor of eight in order to understand the true advertised speed of a connection.

I pray fibre optics are round the corner.

But you still miss the point. The size of something is different from the speed of something else. They're completely distinct things.

That was rude.

Typical of the type of person who can probably muster less virtual Facebook friends than those in real life.

Do you really think people divide something by eight, ever. Have you ever considered people don't know that they have to.

There is a real problem with broadband advertising and nothing you have said has made it any easier, you've provided no better alternative o something which patently does not work.

Fine, but they do quote numbers. For that I correct you. Not in malice, only in fact, they do have an idea, but its the wrong one. Much like environmentalists that quote ill researched statistics of a 30% reduction in this or that, but 30% of what?!

There needs to be a base element, something to measure against that all normal people are familiar with and that sir would be the all to familiar Megabyte.

Then read, contribute and enlighten yourselves.

Not in simplistic terms, which what I see you are trying to use. In simplistic terms one would not oblige another to use divisions of eight in order to come to a result which could have been used as the value of measurement in the first place.

To make it simple, use a familiar value, work from that. Nobody is going to stop listing programs online in MB, so why not measure in that. The numbers right now are artificially high, its like measuring a building in mm.

That certainly applies to my partner, most family and friends. All normal people in the sense being discussed here

In reply to a post by tide:

That was rude.

Typical of the type of person who can probably muster less virtual Facebook friends than those in real life.

Do you really think people divide something by eight, ever. Have you ever considered people don't know that they have to.

There is a real problem with broadband advertising and nothing you have said has made it any easier, you've provided no better alternative o something which patently does not work.

Have you considered your realy easy to wind up and exceptionally rude yourself.

Edited by deleted (Thu 03-Mar-11 01:20:45)